Need help identifying possible hawthorn/ crabapple leaf?

[Biru brooms]

I believe this is a hawthorn native to the southeastern United states but not sure what species.

 

[rockm]

Hawthorn hybridizes like mad in the wild. I count 15 species on this list.

Could be any one of them, or a mix of them...What matters most, if you plan on collecting it, is the bottom third of the trunk...

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Post a shot of some branches too; trunk if you can. It doesn’t look like hawthorn.

 

[Biru brooms]

Here's a leaf that's came from a similar seedling with the same crabapple like leaf I posted early I was doing research but there's only a few Hawthorn species with images of there leads but it doesn't compare to any of them

 

[rockm]

Could be a Mayhaw, but again, could be any number of things. Really doesn't make that much difference.

 

[Biru brooms]

Post a shot of some branches too; trunk if you can. It doesn’t look like hawthorn.

I would but it's only a 1-3 year old seedlings

 

[garywood]

I would but it's only a 1-3 year old seedlings

Are the leaves opposite or alternate?

 

[Biru brooms]

Are the leaves opposite or alternate?

Opposite

 

[M. Frary]

Did the tree have pokey things all over it?

 

[Biru brooms]

Did the tree have pokey things all over it?

Nope it's only 1-3 year old seedlings but the leaves have sharp tips

 

[Cadillactaste]

Here's a leaf that's came from a similar seedling with the same crabapple like leaf I posted early I was doing research but there's only a few Hawthorn species with images of there leads but it doesn't compare to any of them

Same seedling?

 

[Paulpash]

I would but it's only a 1-3 year old seedlings

Even that would be good. The new shoots on hawthorn have red ends and the shoot color goes from green to purple to grey as they harden off. It will be easy to differentiate between the two with a pic. To me with the crenolated edges it looks more like a crabapple. Toringo / sieboldii is the only crabapple I know of that looks anything like the last pic.

 

[Biru brooms]

Even that would be good. The new shoots on hawthorn have red ends and the shoot color goes from green to purple to grey as they harden off. It will be easy to differentiate between the two with a pic. To me with the crenolated edges it looks more like a crabapple. Toringo / sieboldii is the only crabapple I know of that looks anything like the last pic.

Couldn't get a good image of the new shoots but they are green

 

[Biru brooms]

Same seedling?

Yeah a similar seedling with the same leaves but with a weird tri shape leaf and still the rest of the leaves look like a Crabapple hybrid.

 

[Biru brooms]

Did the tree have pokey things all over it?

No it's still young only about 1-3 year seedlings

 

[Cadillactaste]

Yeah a similar seedling with the same leaves but with a weird tri shape leaf and still the rest of the leaves look like a Crabapple hybrid.

Reminds me of a sassafras to be honest. That shape and a mixture of leaf shape found on them.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

My guess on post 14 is a Malus of some kind; apple or crabapple.