shohin kid
Shohin
You may also want to contact don and see if he has any suggestions.
My Kotobuki
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rockm
Spuds Moyogi
I would listen closely to what your club members have to say. I suspect Don probably has no idea of how this tree will fare in Hawaii, since he doesn't live there.
I don't have any idea either, but I have a feeling it will be fine without dormancy. Black pine (pinus thunbergii) is native to Honshu and Shikoku islands in the Japan archipelago--both islands have a subtropical maritime climate. Despite being used as an ornamental for centuries in more temperate areas, the plant is genetically a subtropical. The plant can simply tolerate more temperate areas.
I don't have any idea either, but I have a feeling it will be fine without dormancy. Black pine (pinus thunbergii) is native to Honshu and Shikoku islands in the Japan archipelago--both islands have a subtropical maritime climate. Despite being used as an ornamental for centuries in more temperate areas, the plant is genetically a subtropical. The plant can simply tolerate more temperate areas.
Just Duane
Shohin
Shohin, thanks for the suggestion, but I have to agree with rockm. I mean no disrespect to Don, as I know he is an excellent grower & bonsaist.
I have been with my current club & sensei for 6 months now & I am ready to place my complete trust in him & my club. I say this because, he has been growing bonsai in Hawaii for 30 plus years & his trees & knowledge speak volumes. My sensei was taught by the late great Papa Kaneshiro, who also grew bonsai exclusively in Hawaii & is a legend among most old timers here in Hawaii. I think as time goes by & my sensei sees that i'm serious about bonsai, he will start to pass on the knowledge.
I think the hardest part for me was understanding that growing bonsai in Hawaii is sometimes totally different than what I read in books & magazines & a good example would be when to repot a tree. In Hawaii, I am told that we can get away with repotting trees most anytime of the year. Another example is when or what month we candle jbps? I was told the tree will let you know when the time to candle it, not the month or season.
Lastly, the thing I like about my sensei is, he lets you experiment with other techniques & methods, its never my way or the highway. I told him I wanted to try this new technique where you candle the entire tree all at the same time & his response was "just remember, the guys on the mainland have way different seasons than we have here" then he said "you can try it for one year" So I did. Anyways, thanks again for all the suggestions
I have been with my current club & sensei for 6 months now & I am ready to place my complete trust in him & my club. I say this because, he has been growing bonsai in Hawaii for 30 plus years & his trees & knowledge speak volumes. My sensei was taught by the late great Papa Kaneshiro, who also grew bonsai exclusively in Hawaii & is a legend among most old timers here in Hawaii. I think as time goes by & my sensei sees that i'm serious about bonsai, he will start to pass on the knowledge.
I think the hardest part for me was understanding that growing bonsai in Hawaii is sometimes totally different than what I read in books & magazines & a good example would be when to repot a tree. In Hawaii, I am told that we can get away with repotting trees most anytime of the year. Another example is when or what month we candle jbps? I was told the tree will let you know when the time to candle it, not the month or season.
Lastly, the thing I like about my sensei is, he lets you experiment with other techniques & methods, its never my way or the highway. I told him I wanted to try this new technique where you candle the entire tree all at the same time & his response was "just remember, the guys on the mainland have way different seasons than we have here" then he said "you can try it for one year" So I did. Anyways, thanks again for all the suggestions
shohin kid
Shohin
No problem Duane,
Good luck with this tree. All trees from Don are good, you are growing quite a nice collection.
Good luck with this tree. All trees from Don are good, you are growing quite a nice collection.
Si Nguyen
Omono
Hi Duane, this is an awesome tree. There are probably not so many of these JWP in Hawaii. May I ask, how did you get it into Hawaii? I thought it was impossible to import trees and plants into Hawaii.
Good luck with it!
Si
Good luck with it!
Si
Just Duane
Shohin
Thanks Shohin, yes Don has awesome trees.
Si, hard yes, but not impossible.
Heres the short of it. Friend in Hawaii owns nursery, has license & permit, recieves tree & ships to me.
Si, hard yes, but not impossible.
Heres the short of it. Friend in Hawaii owns nursery, has license & permit, recieves tree & ships to me.
Just Duane
Shohin
Sorry Si, I missed the first part of your post. I'm sure you meant jbp not jwp. Jwp we cannot grow in Hawaii. We have tons of jbps in Hawaii, I have seen some & they're beautiful. I hope my jbp will be one of these beautiful bonsai one day.
Just Duane
Shohin
Hanging Tough
Hey all, my Buki is doing good.
Did some root work & repotted into tokoname pot.
Kinda needed the root work, though I would give the tree more recovery time after candling & pulling needles, next time ( i totally stressed this guy out!)
Got the rootball down to a decent size & will get all of the old soil out next time.
I shot this today, just as the sun peeked over the mountain & began to hit the tree.
I used 100% akadama at first, but the soil dried out way to fast. Tree is now in akadama, turface & black cinder 1/3 each. Much happier now
Hey all, my Buki is doing good.
Did some root work & repotted into tokoname pot.
Kinda needed the root work, though I would give the tree more recovery time after candling & pulling needles, next time ( i totally stressed this guy out!)
Got the rootball down to a decent size & will get all of the old soil out next time.
I shot this today, just as the sun peeked over the mountain & began to hit the tree.
I used 100% akadama at first, but the soil dried out way to fast. Tree is now in akadama, turface & black cinder 1/3 each. Much happier now
Duane,
your sensei is right. All my JBP have come from a colder climate . I live in the tropics in Austrialia where summer is a nice 35 degrees celcius min for 5 months and humidity hovers at 80% or more. They take about 2 years to acclimatise but they do. I also have two straight red pines , some yatsubusha and a hybried ( japanese red/black) The hybried didnt do well last summmer at all but coming into spring here it is pushing alot of new growth and looking better. My winters are pretty mild rarely if ever under 2 and only for a night or two average around 6-10 degress celcius .
Do you use the black soil you get over ther. I watched a doco on an old japanese man in hawili who was growing black pines there since after the war. He used this soil for good drainage.
your sensei is right. All my JBP have come from a colder climate . I live in the tropics in Austrialia where summer is a nice 35 degrees celcius min for 5 months and humidity hovers at 80% or more. They take about 2 years to acclimatise but they do. I also have two straight red pines , some yatsubusha and a hybried ( japanese red/black) The hybried didnt do well last summmer at all but coming into spring here it is pushing alot of new growth and looking better. My winters are pretty mild rarely if ever under 2 and only for a night or two average around 6-10 degress celcius .
Do you use the black soil you get over ther. I watched a doco on an old japanese man in hawili who was growing black pines there since after the war. He used this soil for good drainage.
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Just Duane
Shohin
Thanks Harry, I agree, Don has awesome trees!
noah, the guy on the video is papa kaneshiro, my sensei's teacher. I do use the black cinder & most bonsaist in Hawaii uses this black cinder on pines for its good drainage. I mix it with akadama & turface.
noah, the guy on the video is papa kaneshiro, my sensei's teacher. I do use the black cinder & most bonsaist in Hawaii uses this black cinder on pines for its good drainage. I mix it with akadama & turface.
Just Duane
Shohin
I worked on my kotobuki last week. This tree got a major thinning out!
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Another really nice tree Duane, can we see it without the bib?
Just Duane
Shohin
Thank you JudyB. I will get a pic up without the bib tomorrow.
Just Duane
Shohin
Just a little off the top and cleanup the sideburns
Really looking good, when I saw that stainless in the backgrowund i thought o no its going in the fridge...
kotobuki are slow this is an old piece, me likey, me wantee
Ahhh, thats a good one rock! I now laugh at myself when I think about the fridge thing!
