Large Japanese maple progression.

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So I had been wanting a large Japanese maples to develop from scratch and I found one at a local nursery that I thought had potential. I could tell from the shape of the lower trunk the root spread was fairly even at least growing from one plane and I've always like the particular bark of this type of Japanese maple so I bought it.
My next order of business was to start the process of cleaning up the trunk and bit. And to remove the burlap string that left a horrible ring around the lower trunk. That line is not a graft mark it was the nylon string that was left on by the nursery. And btw I can't really find a graft mark on the trunk anywhere. I would be very surprised if it wasn't grafted but if I can't tell most people probably won't see it either. I took a grafting knife to all the cuts I made and cleaned the wounds and knife with alcohol after each cut.
Later that night I got curious about the root spread so I started uncovering the soil around the base. I wasn't surprised to see very thick structural roots forming the root base because the tree was planted in field soil with zero potting soil in the pot at all. The tree and pot probably weighs about 70 pounds. The roots will need to be cut back to start forming taper to the root spread. They are not the prettiest roots but at least they are all in one plane and somewhat radial. My goal for the short term is to watch and wait for buds to start swelling to tackle the repotting and possibly build a box. The largest growing branch to the right may get cut off because the angle is weird growing parallel with the trunk.. Their is a bunch a little branches a couple of inches from the top of the chop point that will form my new apex area. I'm planning on getting a lot of areas where new buds will formed hopefully,, and if not ,,a thread graft will be preformed on place's that need a branch. I'm hoping to have something resembling a bonsai in 5 years. Year one is to choose and grow primary branches. Year 2 will be to thickin primary branches and preform the first cut backs to start taper and movement in the premiere branching. Year 3 will start the process of ramifying the primary branches. Year 3 also should be the second repot and at that point the roots will be assessed to determine if a ground layer is appropriate or if I can live with what the cut back structural roots look like. The tree will be repotted into mostly Academa to help slow down the growth leading to the beginnings of a refinement stage. Year 4 should continue the ramification of the canopy with techniques like defoliation and pinching being deployed. Year 5 I should have a fairly presentable tree and will start looking for bonsai pots to further refine the canopy. In a perfect world that how it will work. But i have not observed how vigorously the tree grows or it growth habit so more realistically the process could take much longer and will probably take 8 years. Btw this tree has been at this nursery for as long as i have been coming to this business and the owner estimates that the tree is 30 or 40 year old. The tree may get a new cut back to add more taper but it will most likely grow freely this first season. 20250225_203347.jpg20250226_011341.jpg20250226_011521.jpg20250226_011854.jpg20250226_012034.jpg20250226_013810.jpg20250226_014126.jpg20250226_014306.jpg20250226_015206.jpg20250226_024202.jpg20250226_024700.jpg20250226_175139.jpg
 
I have a feeling that this tree will take off growing really good once it gets in some nice open bonsai substrate.
 
Nice grayed out bark, did it not have a tag?
Unfortunately it did not have a tag. It has kinda light green leaves if I remember correctly that are fairly small and I think red seed pods. I did post a picture of the dried up leaves that where in the nursery pot if that helps..its
not a dorf like the internodes aren't super tiny but not super long either. It's definitely not your garden variety mountain maple. Definitely a named variety. But asking the owner on a tree that's been there for 15-20 years he would draw a blank. I know this is pointless but if anyone has any ideas that I could run past the owner of the nursery that may jog his memory. The owner is his 80s ,,,his son that sold it to me didn't know. The nursery has been in business since the 60s,,at the same location... I grew up singing there Commercial jingle when the old commercials from the 70s would play in the 90s hehehehe. I doubt it will last another 20 year tho smh..
 
What is a dorf? I tried to look it up, but I kept getting information on a Tim Conway character. Have any pictures?
 
Nice work good start for the root structure. Leaves look a bit like full moon maple.
 
Sooooo i got impatient and repotted the tree today. And bonus found two wild Japanese maples in a abandoned lot next to a really gross pond in the middle of Dayton Ohio.. I may or may not have seen dirty dippers floating in the water 😳..and when I got home extra bonus in the mail,,, I must have mistakenly ordered 35 bone-dry ass bare root hornbeams because that's how they came. i took a picture burning the dry one sheet of newspaper they rapped the roots with. But back to the maples..there was only roots in the top third of the field soil the tree was potted in so I didn't have much to work with. I had nothing but thick roots circling that top third, I took probably a little more then what was safe but it is what it is. I had to get the tree on it's way too becoming a nicely done bonsai and roots are an important thing for me. I soaked the tree for an hour in shock treatment juice so I hope that helps a bit. I was going to build a box but I didn't feel like it to be honest and the training pot it's in will do for the time being. Wanted something a little deeper to regrow them roots. My fingers are crossed... for te maples and hornbeams smh20250228_181848.jpg20250228_181859.jpg20250228_182807.jpg20250228_182921.jpg20250228_183801.jpg20250228_184634.jpg17408137249081979569665519236904.jpg20250301_002337.jpg20250301_001949.jpg
 
Nice work good start for the root structure. Leaves look a bit like full moon maple.
Omg... part or me would be happy to grow a full moon Japanese maple, but the other part would a little disappointed because that's not what I was really looking for. And you are right they do kinda look like full moon leaves. The last time I remembered seeing the tree i wasn't really into Japanese maples yet so it was just a Japanese maple to me,, and that's all I knew.
 
Omg... part or me would be happy to grow a full moon Japanese maple, but the other part would a little disappointed because that's not what I was really looking for. And you are right they do kinda look like full moon leaves. The last time I remembered seeing the tree i wasn't really into Japanese maples yet so it was just a Japanese maple to me,, and that's all I knew.
If it does turn out to be full moon, keep it out of the wind. They don't like wind. But there are so many maples who knows. Hope your seedlings make it.
 
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