Job frost damage
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Chumono
I never cut frost damage off anything until spring. I am sure some will disagree but this works for me.
I am curious as to what varieties of pines you have that were damaged.
I am curious as to what varieties of pines you have that were damaged.
Japanese Black Pine
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
Leave it.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Doubt it!
Pics!
Sorce
Pics!
Sorce
eryk2kartman
Chumono
Some of my pines goes very brownish color during the winter, so far they always came back to green in the spring.
Haines' Trees
Shohin
Here is one of my JBPs. Started to go a little brown but I’m not too worried yet. Not sure how brown yours has gone.
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
Here is my JBP that got stung a couple winters ago, down to 7f for a few nights after some heavy wiring a couple months before. It’s fine now, but it was really bad timing, since I was prepping it for and ended up withdrawing it from the US National Bonsai Exhibition.
Thanks Brian that gives me hope.
i was sick after realizing what happened.
Dav4
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How cold did it get in your yard? It fell to 18 F one morning last week here, and the coldest it had been up until then was 35 F. A couple of my D trees had their leaves freeze dried overnight, but all the conifers didn't blink.
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We got into the high teens plants were on a tall bench while I was out of town on a medical emergency.
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Yeah, all my trees except a few very large junipers were on the ground. Good luck with them.
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Hello all I am very new at bonsai I bought my first tree a few days ago. I live in southern Wisconsin and the tree came from Florida. I am worried about the climate change. It also came wired. Should I remove the wires now? Thanks for any and all advice.
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I should have mentioned the tree is a black pine. I have it currently in my garage.
vancehanna
Omono
Dave, I'd caution you on the garage. Rodents, drying, stagnant air. However if you've done this on others with success then disregard. Just watch the water...and I'd hope the garage is not heated. Well protected outside with overhead for snow and other forms of precipitation will be fine. Just protect from WIND! Do not place it up against the wall of the house either, as it is warmer...and possibly the overhang will not allow precipitation. You might use something like Wiltproof an acrylic polymer that 'washes' off by itself in Spring...
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
I have kept trees in my unheated, attached garage over the winter for 11 years and never had a problem as long as I checked them once a week for water needs.
Ive never had rodents in there as far as I know and the air does not get stagnant. I do open the garage door on occasion. Winter air is dry whether it be inside or out, you just need to make sure the trees get water when they need it. As long as it does not get too warm in the garage, trees in there will be absolutely fine.
Old picture of trees stored in the garage over the winter.
I also have a cold frame against the north side of my house where some of the trees are right up against the foundation. Ive done this for at least 6-7 years and again no problems at all. I cover it with plywood when it gets very cold and again, the air does not stagnate. The foundation does give off heat but it doesnt get overly warm and actually moderates the temperature. I have had it remain around 30 degrees in there when it was 20 out side. I also let it snow in there. I have not lost one tree in that cold frame. My trees seem to love it in there over the winter.
Cold frame under construction.
Wisconsin should be much colder on average than where I am so I dont see any problems with either method being too warm as long as the garage is unheated as you stated. The main thing that I agree with is wind protection. That will do more damage to a tree than almost anything else.
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
I think one of the secret to successful garage storage is to keep the trees off the floor. Elevation keeps them out of the rodent's immediate comfort zone. I have a friend who stores all his trees in his unheated garage. He's had no issues with rodents. He has his trees on carts and dollies that he can wheel in and out according to the weather--outside when it's above 40. Back in when below 30.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I don't doubt successful garage keeping.
Safe outdoor protection is a small percentage better.
Not everyone can provide safe outdoors, or safe indoors, and we are all taking calculated risks.
Point is to minimize the risks.
Sorce
Safe outdoor protection is a small percentage better.
Not everyone can provide safe outdoors, or safe indoors, and we are all taking calculated risks.
Point is to minimize the risks.
Sorce
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
I would argue that it depends on the species to some degree.
Also "better" is what works best for you which may not be what works best for someone else.
Some of my species (most cold tolerant) do better outside, others do better in the garage, while my tropicals won't do well outside or in the garage at all.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I mean better for a natural tree, not beyond the freakish thing we do to them, including growing them where they don't belong.
In that sense it is always better.
Then how to most appropriately apply the freakish things?
The "better" of which you speak, is the one where we are all individually providing protections. Post freakish.
Sorce
