Japanese white pine newbie questions

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Hello thanks for looking at my post and takeing time to reply ok so I've never had a Japanese white pine and picked up what I think would be a nice tree in the future first how do I go about training it outta the nursery pot into a more shallow pot second whats best times for repoting.next question best times for pruining / working....as well any basic care info would be appreciated the pic attached is the tree I picked up
 

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Now is a good time to repot. However, it would be best to do what we call HBR (Half Bare Root). P. parviflora is most commonly grafted onto p. thunbergii roots, but p. sylvestris is becoming more common, especially with growers in Washington and Oregon. Sylvestris roots grow so strongly that a full bare root can be done. If you are certain the root stock is sylvestris, go ahead, but otherwise do an HBR. First, you can cut off the bottom third to half of the root 'ball' after you've knocked off the plastic pot. Then you will use your trusty root hook and maybe a little bit of water jetting with a garden hose to remove the nursery soil from the roots on only one side of the trunk. Then you will prune the roots and pot the tree in substrate and next year finish the process bare rooting the other half of the roots.

Frequently I invert the destination pot and use the base (now top) as a template for trimming the roots.

Life will be easiest if you repot into a pond basket or colander. The big box stores usually have ones that are 8x8 that will last many years. Roots will get air pruned in these containers, developing the root pad needed for a bonsai pot, in situ. Otherwise, repotting every year or two years is necessary to affect the root pruning that is required. If you are taking this latter route, be sure to do all styling work before repotting.

Generally, you will want no more than two branches at a node/whorl. You want the lowest branch to be the heaviest an to be on the right or left side of your chosen front. Then you want a branch on the opposite side that isn't quite as heavy and you need a branch behind that will give your design depth (otherwise your tree will look 2D just like a pic in real life, which is actually very 'boring'). Then you need something for an apex. This is all that is necessary for a bonsai. You may want more (and some designs will need more) and/or you may not be able to decide which to remove right away. That is okay. I must confess that I am very reluctant to cut branches and must keep reminding myself that these 4 structural elements are all that are necessary. If you already have wire on hand, you may want to do an initial styling, selecting branches and wiring them to positions that assure sunlight gets to all the foliage and into the interior, near the trunk. On the other hand, late next winter or early spring, is a much better time for wiring. Right now, the bark is easily torn off the stems.

Branches can be removed anytime you want. Now until late fall may produce an amount of resin bleed that you find undesirable/disturbing. By the time leaves are falling off the deciduous trees, this won't happen.

Okay! Now we're having fun, right? :D
 
Generally, you will want no more than two branches at a node/whorl.

In addition to the great advice @0soyoung is providing regarding transplanting, this design advice is critical for your tree. Do you see how you have a thick lower trunk, and then it rises to a whorl where you have a large number of branches popping out at the same point? The sooner you resolve this, the better. You have to choose one of the branches as your main trunk line (probably NOT the one in the middle going straight up) and a second branch opposing this one which you will treat as your primary lowest branch. All the others need to go. You will have some pretty substantial scarring to deal with, but it will only get worse with time and the sooner you resolve it the sooner you will start moving forward with a design that will "work" for bonsai.

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Now I wouldn't whant to do both in one season idd think would getting the main trunk line set be a better option for this year then next year start working the roots
 
Now I wouldn't whant to do both in one season idd think would getting the main trunk line set be a better option for this year then next year start working the roots

If you were worried about shocking the tree by removing too much foliage, too quickly, I would simply take the branches I know I was going to remove in the future, and I would reduce the foliage mass on them all by 50%, while leaving the rest of the tree alone. Then next year, the shock to the tree would be less than half as great - assuming the tree compensated by shifting resources to the parts of the tree you didn't prune.
 
Another thing I'm curious about seeing as I'm going to be removing some thicker branches would be airlayer them off ?? Any info on that with a white pine ? Figure I could get a few more nice sized starters
 
The best time to wire JWP early fall. The reason is the needles have hardened off, but the new twigs supporting those needles have not fully lignified, and are easy to bend. Damaging the bark is usually not an issue.

If you do style in September, then wait until early spring to repot. That way, if your styling calls for changing the orientation of the trunk, your spring potting can shape the rootball consistent with the new styling angle.



If you choose to repot this fall, then wait an entire year before you style the tree. Pruning and wiring will dislodge the new rootlets, and is stressful to the tree.

JWP do not airlayer very well. I would not plan on using that technique on this tree.

When do do prune, only remove about 1/3 of the total amount of foliage that you want to remove. JWP are sensitive. Wait 6 months, see how the tree is responding, then do another 1/3. Wait another 6 months, and then remove the final 1/3.

You can also Jin some branches rather than just cutting them off. You might want to wire them into place for a year, then Jin so they will be at an attractive angle. While you “can” wire dead, jinned branches, it’s better to wire them, let them get set, then Jin.
 
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