Handling Sargentii foliage

[leatherback]

Hey All, \\I have a bnunch of Sargents' junipers standing around, one of which ahs had a basic styling. I cannot find out however how to handle their foliage. it is floppy and full of stress foliage if I do anything.

Several older threads indicate this is a species not worth keeping on its own foliage, but.. Maybe someone meanwhile has broken the code?

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

It might be a good idea to specify first what kind of sargent we're talking about.
Itoigawa and kishu, and all Japanese local cultivars can / were / are grouped under 'sargentii'. If we anglicize that, it translates to sargent's.

But I think you're talking about the one creeping variety that resembles juniperus horizontalis or the likes. The creeping variety of chinensis is in some circles called sargent's juniper.
From the planted specimens I've seen growing, there's no stopping the foliage from going juvenile. It seems to happen randomly. I'm not saying to burn the foliage off.. BUT.. My horizontalis doesn't produce juvenile-looking foliage (similar to my pfitzer/media) when burned. Data collection is still on going though.

 

[Paradox]

Yea I had one once and I remember people saying their foliage is either hard to contain or hard to get all into the adult form and it reverts to juvenile if you look at it cross-eyed, which is too bad as Ive always thought the foliage looked fairly compact in the ones Ive seen if you dont mind the juvenile form.

I dont remember if anyone has been able to tame this variety.

Also I thought shimpaku were considered 'Juniperous chinensis - shimpaku', not 'Juniperous chinensis - sargentii'; related but a different variety

Juniperus chinensis 'Shimpaku' (Chinese juniper, Shimpaku Juniper) | North Carolina Extension Gardener Plant Toolbox

Juniperus chinensis var. sargentii (Sargent Juniper, Sargent's Chinese Juniper) | North Carolina Extension Gardener Plant Toolbox

 

[Wood]

I won't claim to have an educated opinion on the difference, but the National arboretum has labeled all their Japanese varieties as 'sargentii' instead of itoigawa/kishu/shimpaku

 

[leatherback]

Hm,.. interesting.. It is a very coarse growing chinensis-type juniper that I have here. I just heard it refered to as sargenti, which I assumed was sargent juniper.

Let me get some good foliage shots when the weather clears, and I am around during daylight, so in... a few years?.

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Daylight? Haven't seen that concept in a month.