Growing some tridents from seed.

[Ryan H]

Pllleeeaaassseee start calling this the “smokescreen technique”.

Nice thread, hoping to give it a shot with some Chinese elm starts this spring

Cheers

 

[Smoke]

Love that clump Al.

Yea, my new girlfriend says that too

 

[JudyB]

teehee... and that root!!!!

 

[Smoke]

teehee... and that root!!!!

This is when having a large root is a benifit.

 

[BigBen]

The seedlings have been repotted thru tiles and now have a screen hat to add the same movement to the canopy that I have in the trunks. They are planted in colanders and in much coarser soil for larger/faster growth.

Glad this link was posted...
Than you Smoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Approx. how much room do you give the tree, from the top of the tree to the screening?

I am DEFINTELY going to try this method with some of my little Tridents.
Going back outside right NOW, as a matter of fact... LOL...

Thanks Again!

 

[Bananaman]

Glad this link was posted...
Than you Smoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Approx. how much room do you give the tree, from the top of the tree to the screening?

I am DEFINTELY going to try this method with some of my little Tridents.
Going back outside right NOW, as a matter of fact... LOL...

Thanks Again!

No room. You want the screen right on top of any branching too hard to bend. The more room the less bending.

 

[Bananaman]

Here are two of the clumps that I just wanted to pot up to sell last year. I didn't sell them and now they are just growing along in the heat, and not liking it at all in the shallow pot. There is a clump of two and a clump of three. The largest trunk is about 3/4 inch. All are about 9 inches tall

 

[Bananaman]

My next plan is to fuse this next year into a clump of five and shorten three of the trunks significantly.

 

[Bananaman]

We had a record breaking July here. 31 days over 102 for the whole month. When the hot hit on June 30 I was not prepared because June was sooo mild. This planting suffered in the first week with the tree clump dying. Or so I thought it died.... all of a sudden it sprang back to life and became all green again with new leaves. I have seen tridents lose leaves, and this is not what it looked like. I mean I thought it was dead. So this is a miracle.

This was also the time that Ole Horney lost all the leaves.

 

[Tentakelaertje]

We had a record breaking July here. 31 days over 102 for the whole month. When the hot hit on June 30 I was not prepared because June was sooo mild. This planting suffered in the first week with the tree clump dying. Or so I thought it died.... all of a sudden it sprang back to life and became all green again with new leaves. I have seen tridents lose leaves, and this is not what it looked like. I mean I thought it was dead. So this is a miracle.

This was also the time that Ole Horney lost all the leaves.

Does Ole Horny still live? I hope so, that tree is a monster!
Also, the shallow blueish pot is looking good, do you know who made it?

 

[Bonsai901]

Do you keep the screens slightly larger than the canopy or do you let them press into the screen?
Or I guess another way to ask the question; Is it the limbs curling around from the pressure or the limbs trying to find light through the grid?

 

[Bananaman]

Do you keep the screens slightly larger than the canopy or do you let them press into the screen?
Or I guess another way to ask the question; Is it the limbs curling around from the pressure or the limbs trying to find light through the grid?

Yes to all

 

[Fonz]

Sorry if I missed this but what time of year did you put the matchstick sized trees through the hole? I assume late winter/early spring at the end of their first year? (got 80 seedlings from this year myself, looking for ideas to use them )

 

[Smoke]

Here is one of those from that group of seed started trees. This is a single tree that I did not put into a clump. First time in a pot. Really nice pot too. Crackle glaze from Sugiura Keisen. Looks like its a 100 years old. What good do they do on a display shelf.

 

[Smoke]

That one is planted right on the bottom of the pot, no soil. tied hard! Gonna start pushing that nebari right up to the soil. It will do it very well in about three years. Already has a good flare (buried) cause it was on a plate.

 

[Vinnie Charity]

Here is one of those from that group of seed started trees. This is a single tree that I did not put into a clump. First time in a pot. Really nice pot too. Crackle glaze from Sugiura Keisen. Looks like its a 100 years old. What good do they do on a display shelf.

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@Smoke, how long have you been growing this tree? I have a bunch of seedlings (like 30+) and I'm trying to get an idea of how long it takes it to get to this point...

 

[Smoke]

@Smoke, how long have you been growing this tree? I have a bunch of seedlings (like 30+) and I'm trying to get an idea of how long it takes it to get to this point...

I started these seeds under a tent in 2013.



This was the tree before cutting and repotting. You can see much of the wonky under the screen movement now at the top of the tree. That big Z bend will be removed next year.
2018


2019


The repot

 

[Vinnie Charity]

I started these seeds under a tent in 2013.

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This was the tree before cutting and repotting. You can see much of the wonky under the screen movement now at the top of the tree. That big Z bend will be removed next year.
2018
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2019
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The repot

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Very nice my friend, I know that tridents grow fast but WOW!!!

I got a Trident Clump last year that I’m letting grow and I just got the seedlings this year. Looking forward to working with them for sure...

 

[Smoke]

I made a lot of clumps with the material from that season.

 

[cmeg1]

Cool thread!I am going to grow some Trident Maple for first time.This is very helpful to me.If I can propogate from cuttings all will be good.
Got some Roughbark and standard Tridents in grow pouches.If succesful I will make a thread.Just trying to keep what little stock I have growing good in the propogation bed and getting ready for semi ripe cuttings.