Finally, a big trident project

[jriddell88]

Ugly ole.basterd....love em haha

 

[Smoke]

Greaaaaaaaat DAY! You DID that Dave!

This thing is a porker!

What is your plan with the top? I see some buldge on the trunk, top is a bit of a mess, poor taper... What's your plan man?

No sugar coating there.....lots to work with though.

 

[Dav4]

Greaaaaaaaat DAY! You DID that Dave!

This thing is a porker!

What is your plan with the top? I see some buldge on the trunk, top is a bit of a mess, poor taper... What's your plan man?

This tree had been styled like a pine tree, and a poor one at that. I'm planning to grow this into an informal broom, and aiming more toward Walter Pall's fairy tree genre. The bulge on the top won't be an issue once it's grown a new canopy. Hopefully, I'll get some strong shoots this spring to get things rolling.

 

[Eric Group]

This tree had been styled like a pine tree, and a poor one at that. I'm planning to grow this into an informal broom, and aiming more toward Walter Pall's fairy tree genre. The bulge on the top won't be an issue once it's grown a new canopy. Hopefully, I'll get some strong shoots this spring to get things rolling.

So, you are going to carve the Hell out of it in other words? Then let the top grow, hedge it back... Repeat until ugly becomes pretty?

 

[JudyB]

That's a lot of work. At least it had great root health, should bounce back from all that work really fast. I'll be interested to see how you handle the canopy.

 

[barrosinc]

Just a question: why root graft? It has roots all the way round? Is it to allow the chosen roots to thicken?

 

[MACH5]

Just a question: why root graft? It has roots all the way round? Is it to allow the chosen roots to thicken?

Max I think he needs finer detail on the nebari.

 

[Dav4]

So, you are going to carve the Hell out of it in other words? Then let the top grow, hedge it back... Repeat until ugly becomes pretty?

I'm not carving anything...yet. I just need to let it grow and develop the primary branching. Once I've got the basic form set, I'll consider some carving.

 

[Dav4]

Just a question: why root graft? It has roots all the way round? Is it to allow the chosen roots to thicken?

Max I think he needs finer detail on the nebari.

Sergio nailed it. I wanted to get started on ramifying the roots as well as the canopy. Getting somewhat thicker roots where I want them and letting them develop, along with some of the existing rootage, will get me a nicer root base sooner.

 

[Don Blackmond]

I really wish I could grow a trident here. I like the way this one is all knobby.

Why can't you grow a trident? I have them in the ground, on the ground, above the ground, in a garage, in a greenhouse, etc.

 

[M. Frary]

Why can't you grow a trident? I have them in the ground, on the ground, above the ground, in a garage, in a greenhouse, etc.

I really don't believe they can take winters here. I don't have either a greenhouse or a garage.
Aren't trident maples and Japanese maples zone 5 trees or more? The closest I've seen a Japanese maple growing to me is about 80 miles to the south of me in Bay City.

 

[Smoke]

I really don't believe they can take winters here. I don't have either a greenhouse or a garage.
Aren't trident maples and Japanese maples zone 5 trees or more? The closest I've seen a Japanese maple growing to me is about 80 miles to the south of me in Bay City.

Have you tried or just read the kool aid?

 

[M. Frary]

Have you tried or just read the kool aid?

I've had trees from out of this zone fail miserably from the winter. Chinese elm is one. Japanese maple the other. Last year. Can a trident take colder temps? From everything it says on the Kool-Aid package they can't.

 

[LanceMac10]

Tridents and Chinese Elms.....usually the two trees that will be the ones affected the most by my climate. And my "maybe not good enough" winter storage.
Throw in a bad watering here and there...I'll admit it......
Fresno get a lot of -20?

 

[Don Blackmond]

I really don't believe they can take winters here. I don't have either a greenhouse or a garage.
Aren't trident maples and Japanese maples zone 5 trees or more? The closest I've seen a Japanese maple growing to me is about 80 miles to the south of me in Bay City.

I apologize and don't mean to hijack this thread, and won't pursue this line of discussion here after this comment. Buy a cheap trident. Put it in the ground. It should be fine growing where you are. If you are concerned, put a light colored trash can (or other large cover) upside down over it during the winter. Don't be surprised if you are surprised.

 

[M. Frary]

I apologize and don't mean to hijack this thread, and won't pursue this line of discussion here after this comment. Buy a cheap trident. Put it in the ground. It should be fine growing where you are. If you are concerned, put a light colored trash can (or other large cover) upside down over it during the winter. Don't be surprised if you are surprised.

Well after you and Al telling me it may work,I'm going to have to give it a try. Thanks!

 

[Dav4]

It looks like this one is growing some new toes....

 

[sorce]

Why can't you grow a trident?

try

Sifting your soil.....

Sorce

 

[Dav4]

You gotta love a young trident's vigor...Almost all the seedlings used to root graft are already 3-4' tall and still growing. There are a few 2-3' long runners on the main trunk too, but the seedlings are winning the race. I'm really looking forward to next year's re-pot.

 

[Smoke]

Tridents and Chinese Elms.....usually the two trees that will be the ones affected the most by my climate. And my "maybe not good enough" winter storage.
Throw in a bad watering here and there...I'll admit it......
Fresno get a lot of -20?

There are lots of things that can be done to winter a tree in those kind of temps. Money being the most important.

There is not alot one can do when it is 108 degrees for weeks on end.