Field grown scots pine

[october]

Hi all,
Just picked this up today. Lots of potential. It has been sitting at the nursery for awhile. I have been looking at it for about 4 - 5 months. However, it looked especially inviting to me today so home with me in came.

Form is pretty much in place. The branches are very wild and curvy, but still pliable. Either this Fall or early Spring, I'll wire everything inward to create a tighter silhouette and pads in front of the trunk. Also, I will pull the top down to start training a more rounded crown. The tree is about 15 inches tall with about a 4 1/4 inch base.

Rob

 

[Dav4]

Nice one, Rob! It's got a great trunk with a pretty good nebari for a pine, as well.

 

[AboveBeyond]

Looking forward to see what you can do with it Rob!

 

[Nybonsai12]

Great looking tree. You know you are going to wire it this fall!

 

[october]

Thanks Dave and Sly. It has a lot of potential

Great looking tree. You know you are going to wire it this fall!

lol... Probably. I forgot to get more wire at the nursey when I bought the tree. So, unless I make it up there this Fall, which I probably will in the next few weeks, I was going to let it wait until Spring. However, you're probably right. There is a slim chance I will be staring at this material everyday, in the season that you work on them and not do it.

Rob

 

[JudyB]

I'm glad that I didn't pick this tree up when you sent me a link to it now. You will make a much better tree out of it than I would, and I can follow along and learn from it anyway! Cheers Rob!

 

[october]

Hi Judy. You have trees that anyone would be proud to have them on their benches. You have done an outstanding job with your collection. I would not have initially recommended it to you if I did not think you would do an outstanding job with it.

Rob

 

[tmmason10]

Nice one Rob, I remember this one from the nursery. I am looking forward to the impending styling ...this fall...

 

[coh]

Great trunk base! I too will be anxiously awaiting future updates...

Chris

 

[october]

Nice one Rob, I remember this one from the nursery. I am looking forward to the impending styling ...this fall...

Fall sounds good.

Rob

 

[october]

Great trunk base! I too will be anxiously awaiting future updates...

Chris

Lots of work to be done.

Rob

 

[Lee Brindley]

Very nice. Keep us updated.

 

[Vance Wood]

Just a suggestion from someone who has grown, developed and sold several hundred Scots Pines grown from similar circumstances. You have a good frame work, or super structure and now are faced with developing secondary and tertiary branching. If you could provide a close up photo of the branch tip growth I might be able to give you a couple of suggestions that might speed up the process for you. Your real problem is getting the growth to back bud in towards the trunk and not continue outward.

 

[Paradox]

Very very nice. I'm definately jealous. I also can't wait to see how this develops under your care.

 

[october]

Just a suggestion from someone who has grown, developed and sold several hundred Scots Pines grown from similar circumstances. You have a good frame work, or super structure and now are faced with developing secondary and tertiary branching. If you could provide a close up photo of the branch tip growth I might be able to give you a couple of suggestions that might speed up the process for you. Your real problem is getting the growth to back bud in towards the trunk and not continue outward.

Thanks Vance. Though not a big deal, one aesthetic issue is the thickness of the upper branches. However, when the tree fills in and the pads form, this will hide the thickness of the upper branches. Also, although they are relatively thick, they are still pliable. My rough plan is to wire the branched inwards a bit. Also, fine wiring the initial structure of the pads. Basically tightening the silhouette. If I can get back budding and cut back in the future, it might make for a better tree. If, not, the current structure seems very workable as well.

Any information you would like to share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Here are some close ups

Rob

 

[monza]

Looking forward to how you proceed. Looks like pretty good stock to me. Do you know how old it is, what did you have to pay for for it? Always interested as I have no bonsai nursery's in my area, which my wallet appreciates.

 

[Vance Wood]

Thanks Vance. Though not a big deal, one aesthetic issue is the thickness of the upper branches. However, when the tree fills in and the pads form, this will hide the thickness of the upper branches. Also, although they are relatively thick, they are still pliable. My rough plan is to wire the branched inwards a bit. Also, fine wiring the initial structure of the pads. Basically tightening the silhouette. If I can get back budding and cut back in the future, it might make for a better tree. If, not, the current structure seems very workable as well.

Any information you would like to share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Here are some close ups

Rob

It looks like you have a good many back buds forming, that's good. You can also change the issue of the thickness of the upper branches by replacing them. Scot's tendency to back bud will generally give you a lot of opportunities to replace everything if you don't fall prey to the idea of being one season away from a good bonsai.

 

[october]

It looks like you have a good many back buds forming, that's good. You can also change the issue of the thickness of the upper branches by replacing them. Scot's tendency to back bud will generally give you a lot of opportunities to replace everything if you don't fall prey to the idea of being one season away from a good bonsai.

Thanks Vance, this is high potential material and I am in no rush. Just looking at a nice pre bonsai can be very fullfilling. The tree will not be repotted until the year after next or even the year after that. The current container it is in has a complete screen bottom, which is excellent for getting this tree on the right path. In about 2 weeks, I will wire it up to tighten and compact the silhouette and get some basic pad structure in place. From there, it will be up to the tree decide. If it back buds, I will will cut back as the years go on. If not, starting with nice material to begin with is a nice thing to fall back on.

Rob

 

[october]

Looking forward to how you proceed. Looks like pretty good stock to me. Do you know how old it is, what did you have to pay for for it? Always interested as I have no bonsai nursery's in my area, which my wallet appreciates.

This tree came from New England Bonsai Gardens. I do not know how old it is. I would say that if it was grown from a young age, could have been field grown for more than 20-30 years. However, that is a guess since I do not know the starting point. The tree was around $500. For the caliber of material and this area, it is a very good price.

Rob

 

[Lazylightningny]

Please take some step by step photos so we can see how you move the branches into place. I will be experiencing a similar situation with my new mugo, and since I'm new to this, I'm not sure how to go about it.