Crataegus X ???

@ABCarve Nice tree!

Only thing i noticed is the right trunk it goes straight up and makes a straight right turn in 90° as well that entire branch is fairly straight, you probably already know and there probably isnt a short term fix, what are your toughts about it?
 
defra said:
@ABCarve Nice tree!

Only thing i noticed is the right trunk it goes straight up and makes a straight right turn in 90° as well that entire branch is fairly straight, you probably already know and there probably isnt a short term fix, what are your toughts about it?
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I like it just fine. I have no plans. Don’t guild the lily. But thanks for your observation as it keeps everyone thinking.
 
Had to chase this tree back a lot this year. Starting to really outgrow the silhouette and some branching getting too chubby with no taper. It hard to do when you know you're cutting off flower spurs. It'll be an interesting spring to see if I get back budding.

Before and after.

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OH boy am I enjoying your thread!! All the talk about the shape or pot but really what I find most important is in getting this tree to flower and fruit and how is the pruning incorparated to encourage this!! Please tell us after your 2 year of letting it grow unchecked how you are doing the pruning to keep it flowering ?
 
Corrado said:
OH boy am I enjoying your thread!! All the talk about the shape or pot but really what I find most important is in getting this tree to flower and fruit and how is the pruning incorparated to encourage this!! Please tell us after your 2 year of letting it grow unchecked how you are doing the pruning to keep it flowering ?
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Post#43 kinda says it. The only thing missing is waiting for a flowering spur to develop and that’s where you are at the will of the hawthorn gods (ask @Brian Van Fleet ). What you explained to me in your DM about your pruning methods sounds pretty reasonable. The tree is now at a point where I have to prune off flowering spurs in order to keep the silhouette chased back.

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Beautiful tree and progression. Do you still practice hedge-pruning/indiscriminate pruning on this tree for ramifiation purposes or do you just focus on setting up the flowering spurs?
 
Cosmos said:
Beautiful tree and progression. Do you still practice hedge-pruning/indiscriminate pruning on this tree for ramifiation purposes or do you just focus on setting up the flowering spurs?
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I prune for the aesthetics of the tree in general. Can’t control the flowering part so the winter silhouette is the guide. Back-budding is always an issue for keeping the silhouette chased back.
 
I haven't updated this tree for a while and thought I would share its spring flowers. @AlainK You'll be glad to know I'm making a new pot for it this winter. Hopefully it'll meet with your approval. :D Six years is about my limit to look at the same pot over and over. New pots are like getting a new tree!!

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ABCarve said:
This is a hawthorn I collected from a cow pasture around 1997. The past three years I've been chasing it back, mostly from my lack of attention. The mounded soil/moss in the winter pic is me trying to ground layer some roots to the front and back to add to the large lateral roots and even out the nebari. Not sure how well it worked....I'm kind of shy poking around in there. There seems to be roots but what there is seems to be small and tender. I'm getting ready to repot next spring into something smaller.

It finally started flowering again in 2006. I let it fully flower and fruit a couple of years (very cool) but was told that saps a lot of strength from tree. Question... Does it? I've been either cutting them completely off after flowering or just leaving a few as I did this year. Should this be treated like an azalea.....only letting it flowering every second or third year?

Since I started working on the tree again I was letting shoots extend six node and cutting back to 1 or 2 all season. This was the first year I used the hedge method ala Walter P. I'm very happy with the results so far and I know the tree is. Question.... Is there a rule about where flower buds will emerge given the new pruning regime? I really haven't kept track of that.
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Awesome tree. Count yourself lucky if your tree is flowering. All my Crataegus were producing fruit when I collected them, yet they show no sign of flowering for me.
 
Cajunrider said:
Awesome tree. Count yourself lucky if your tree is flowering. All my Crataegus were producing fruit when I collected them, yet they show no sign of flowering for me.
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Mine took 12 years to recover from collection. Patience grasshopper :D Although some never flower. I would enjoy this tree if it didn't flower.
 
Well, here’s the new shoes as promised. One problem with it is that I discovered a dunt in the pot after it was planted. Must has occurred while sitting on the shelf as I check them as they come out of the kiln. Hopefully it’ll last through the season. I have the old one just in case.

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