Bitcoin

@leatherback there has always been a historical bump in BTC during christmas and newyear.
You know what else has historically been used the most during those times? It's drugs. Copious amounts of expensive cocaine.
Cryptos are hard to track and trace, and they provide the perfect cover up.

I've only made this correlation based on everything I've heard and seen about the darkweb, I don't know any dealers so I don't know how that stuff works. But let's put it to the test: If the summer of 2021 is covid-free, I'm expecting huge amounts of people to go all out on festivals. Overdose-style all out - I know some people who are promising to do just that.
If the correlation is more causal, then we'd see a huge bump in BTC during the summer holidays. If not, I will admit I'm wrong.
 
Interesting thought!

So you are saying.. Keep sitting on whatever I still have?
 
>>I don't know any dealers so I don't know how that stuff works.

Suuuuure.

Listen, Felix, this is a nice little gardening place. Take your dutch discotheque sensibilities elsewhere.

I don't want to get splattered with anything.
 
Markets run on the "One greater fool" principle. TSLA is "worth", that is to say the "market capitalization is" higher than the 9 largest auto companies in the world. Sure it is. The have a couple factories and some employees and make cars. I want to say that anyone can make cars, but it's more accurate to say that at least the 9 largest auto companies in the world can make cars and soon they will all have electric models out. Oh! And include APPL in that, too. Who will they partner with? NKLA? There's going to be more electric cars available than buyers want. This is just like the diesel boom in the '70's. Sooner, or later, TSLA stock will have to level off at what they are really worth and the market will have to adjust overall to the dramatic (I hate to be dramatic) great diminishment in wealth. BTC, too. Dry powder will be with it's weight in gold.

AS they say in the NFL, "The bigger they come, the harder they fall". Oooofff!
 
Trade in those bitcoins for some tulip bulbs! :)

When an asset appreciates in value far beyond its utility... I'm out :) With only $75 on the table, you might hold it just to enjoy the ride. But make sure you're not the one on the outside when the game of musical chairs comes to an end.

Tesla Short Sellers Lost $38 Billion in 2020

Yes, I am still waiting for the hammer to fall in terms of the economic impact of all of this recent deficit spending. However first we have to wait for the government to stop spending money they don't have :)

"Some will even argue that bitcoin is just a glorified Ponzi scheme, as new money flows in at the bottom to help the smart money that got in early bail out at the top. In 2021 investors will get their chance to pay their money and take their choice as to whether they see bitcoin and gold as stores of value, and useful portfolio diversifiers, as governments and central banks conjure money out of thin air, or more trouble than whatever they may or may not be worth."
 
Last edited:
Trade in those bitcoins for some tulip bulbs! :)

When an asset appreciates in value far beyond its utility... I'm out :) With only $75 on the table, you might hold it just to enjoy the ride. But make sure you're not the one on the outside when the game of musical chairs comes to an end.

Tesla Short Sellers Lost $38 Billion in 2020

Yes, I am still waiting for the hammer to fall in terms of the economic impact of all of this recent deficit spending. However first we have to wait for the government to stop spending money they don't have :)

"Some will even argue that bitcoin is just a glorified Ponzi scheme, as new money flows in at the bottom to help the smart money that got in early bail out at the top. In 2021 investors will get their chance to pay their money and take their choice as to whether they see bitcoin and gold as stores of value, and useful portfolio diversifiers, as governments and central banks conjure money out of thin air, or more trouble than whatever they may or may not be worth."
BTC can't last for long because it co-opts the FED and all other world government's ability to inflate their currency via normal expansion. I'm unsure why they haven't put the kibosh on it yet, but maybe they all want/need a currency "adjustment" and would take advantage of a Ponzi-like crash to hide their own sins under the rubble. TSLA et al only add to the "wealth creation" by smoke & mirrors that a normal market correction adjusts for. The debt is being monetized, as it has always been intended since Jekyll Island, but will become wild inflation sooner or later when the giant hole of absent production being dug now with lockdowns preventing production of goods and services shows its uglier side. Inflation = growth in money supply minus actual value of goods and services produced. The difference in these two factors is of course astounding and the Piper always gets paid, with interest. The mind boggles when trying to visualize the numbers involved.
 
Well I have spent a lot of time trying to figure it out - not Bitcoin, per se, but how our monetary policy in 2020 is affecting all asset classes in the US - and smarter minds than mine, as well as $ billions in computing power, are still trying to reach a conclusion.

I am starting to wonder if... instead of Bitcoin gaining value, whether it is the dollar that is losing it. Makes sense, given how prices are increasing in just about every major asset class - financial investments, real estate, commodities, gold, bitcoin.

You can't continue to print dollars and assume that you won't depreciate their value. In 2020, the Federal government deficit spending equated to about 15% of GDP.
 
It’s easy to understand, stonks only go up ;)
 
Well I have spent a lot of time trying to figure it out - not Bitcoin, per se, but how our monetary policy in 2020 is affecting all asset classes in the US - and smarter minds than mine, as well as $ billions in computing power, are still trying to reach a conclusion.

I am starting to wonder if... instead of Bitcoin gaining value, whether it is the dollar that is losing it. Makes sense, given how prices are increasing in just about every major asset class - financial investments, real estate, commodities, gold, bitcoin.

You can't continue to print dollars and assume that you won't depreciate their value. In 2020, the Federal government deficit spending equated to about 15% of GDP.
In economic crisis times as now we fight the last war, but a little differently. In the Great Depression the governments of the world's nations did the opposite with the money supply, attempting to control the integrity of their currencies. They could see what printing money was doing in post-WWI Germany and they were bound and determined to avoid that. They demanded hard currency in international trade, and gold, the hardest of all currencies was restricted to ownership only by governments, so not much trade continued. That started a cascade of economic shutdowns of industry and commerce and led to long term 25% unemployment in the USA and worse across the world. With nobody buying stuff, workers were not needed to mine, grow, make, transport, sell or service much of anything. Businesses can't operate at 50% capacity for long because their fixed costs of real estate and machinery always includes mortgage payments on all that equipment and inventory, so they go bankrupt and the banks holding the mortgages can't pay bond holders interest payments and they go bust, too. No one and no commerce is immune from what happens when the flow of cash stops abruptly. It's not called a cascade for nothing. It's like being in a rowboat on eastern Lake Ontario without oars. You may not know exactly when you're going over Niagara Falls, but you are going over sooner or later.

So, we know restricting money & trade doesn't work. It took WWII to get out of the Depression ten years later. No war, no end to the depression. Printing money as we are doing now on a limited scale is monetizing the problem. That is: debasing the value of a currency by dividing the net value of the currency into more units (dollars for the USA). I can't do the calculations, but if they issue 10% more dollars than the increase in goods and services being created, the the value of all the dollars in circulation goes down about 10%. Which is worse: currency that is worth less after the crisis, or the cascade? It's an easy question with an easy answer, but with one little caveat: it can't continue for long because small businesses drop like flies where the Mom& Pop shops operate out of their pockets and go irretrievably broke in weeks or months. Not years, -weeks or months-, and they are 25% of the economy. How long has this lasted already?

Fiat money is created by governments in normal times in the same amount as the increase in value of goods and services. Joe makes cigar boxes. He pays for wood, rent, machinery, heat, glue, labor, taxes and paint for 50 cents his cost and sells them at a 40% mark-up for 83 cents. He has increased the value of the goods and services by 33 cents. The government needs to increase the number of dollars by 33 cents or there will be a shortage of currency. It's pretty simple. Don't print enough and pretty soon the system doesn't work. Print too much and the value of each unit goes down.

How does BTC fit into this scheme? It doesn't. It's attempting to become a fiat currency not connected to a government. (fiat means it's worth what somebody says it's worth) In this case the holders are the people issuing the fiat. Are they to be trusted any more than the governments that have been the issuers of dollars, pounds & yen? Are you kidding? They are trying to tell the world that BTC is the new gold as a store of value. The slight difference is that gold is real. You can hold it and it is limited in supply so that someone can't create it out of thin air, or debase it out of thin air.

PT was right.
 
guess I am out for a bit. I guess we will see a big drop soon again. If not, I am going to be just annoyed.
But.. overall stepping in and out I more than 10-folded my original input since I joint the rollercoaster in 2017. Happy enough.

Lets see where this train goes..
 
Back
Top Bottom