Bald Cypress Flat-Top Styling Advice

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Problem: Unnatural symmetry in bald cypress flat-top bonsai.

Cause: Creating a new apex along with new branches at the chop.

Solution: Understanding how symmetry is introduced into your design and avoiding it by doing one thing at a time; New apex or new branch.

Building a flat-top bald cypress can begin with collecting an existing tree from the swamp (numadori). This often begins with a “trunk chop” to establish a starting point. Branches will form near the chop point. The artist might choose one of these new branches to be the apex of the flat-top design. This point of commencement for the curve is a departure from the centerline of the trunk. Multiple branches may form where the numadori’s trunk was chopped. This creates a temptation to create another branch as an opposing branch, or perhaps a second, lower flat-top pad. This is where the artist introduces the problem of symmetry into their design.

In the illustration, the centerline of the trunk becomes the reflection line where the artist creates both their flat-top curve and an opposing branch. The symmetry makes it difficult for the viewer to follow the artist’s design line; the “line of the tree”. The solution to this problem is to either begin the curve of the flat-top design, or to choose one of the new branches to continue following the original line of the numadori. Do not do both. If the trunk-chop is the point of commencement for the flat-top curve, then the artist should not also create an opposing branch. Branches opposing the flat-top curve should be placed above or below this point.

Where the trunk-chop has produced several new branches, if the artist chooses to follow the original centerline, they may also choose to develop a new side branch off of the trunk. Since this side branch is not in opposition to a flat-top’s point of commencement there is no danger of introducing symmetry across the centerline of the trunk. As long as the artist chooses to place the point of commencement above this new branch, symmetry will not confuse the viewer. The point of commencement for the flat-top curve must be clearly discernable to the viewer.

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This is great stuff. It got me to look around and I found this, which very much supports what you are illustrating.

https://gnobs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Bald-Cypress-as-Bonsai-part-C.pdf

And now... I have to rethink the design of my BC a bit. The chop has 2 main branches, one of which immediately splits into two (left). This has me wondering now if I should wire the larger branch (left) up more into a continuation of the trunkline. My plan was to reduce symmetry by using sharp changes of direction in the upper branches, but now I wonder if that will be enough. Here is my thread, all critiques, coaching, and opinions are highly welcome. https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/wulfskaars-bald-cypress.60870/

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I've been going for something similar to this, but admittedly, mine is more symmetric.

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I plan to do some pruning this weekend. If I can get around to that, I'll update my thread with new pics for clarity.
 
Problem: Unnatural symmetry in bald cypress flat-top bonsai.

Cause: Creating a new apex along with new branches at the chop.

Solution: Understanding how symmetry is introduced into your design and avoiding it by doing one thing at a time; New apex or new branch.

Building a flat-top bald cypress can begin with collecting an existing tree from the swamp (numadori). This often begins with a “trunk chop” to establish a starting point. Branches will form near the chop point. The artist might choose one of these new branches to be the apex of the flat-top design. This point of commencement for the curve is a departure from the centerline of the trunk. Multiple branches may form where the numadori’s trunk was chopped. This creates a temptation to create another branch as an opposing branch, or perhaps a second, lower flat-top pad. This is where the artist introduces the problem of symmetry into their design.

In the illustration, the centerline of the trunk becomes the reflection line where the artist creates both their flat-top curve and an opposing branch. The symmetry makes it difficult for the viewer to follow the artist’s design line; the “line of the tree”. The solution to this problem is to either begin the curve of the flat-top design, or to choose one of the new branches to continue following the original line of the numadori. Do not do both. If the trunk-chop is the point of commencement for the flat-top curve, then the artist should not also create an opposing branch. Branches opposing the flat-top curve should be placed above or below this point.

Where the trunk-chop has produced several new branches, if the artist chooses to follow the original centerline, they may also choose to develop a new side branch off of the trunk. Since this side branch is not in opposition to a flat-top’s point of commencement there is no danger of introducing symmetry across the centerline of the trunk. As long as the artist chooses to place the point of commencement above this new branch, symmetry will not confuse the viewer. The point of commencement for the flat-top curve must be clearly discernable to the viewer.

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Fantastic post. I reflected back to the times that I chopped off some major branches because they didn’t feel right. A few of those were definitely in the unnatural symmetrical category.
 
Problem: Unnatural symmetry in bald cypress flat-top bonsai.

Cause: Creating a new apex along with new branches at the chop.

Solution: Understanding how symmetry is introduced into your design and avoiding it by doing one thing at a time; New apex or new branch.

Building a flat-top bald cypress can begin with collecting an existing tree from the swamp (numadori). This often begins with a “trunk chop” to establish a starting point. Branches will form near the chop point. The artist might choose one of these new branches to be the apex of the flat-top design. This point of commencement for the curve is a departure from the centerline of the trunk. Multiple branches may form where the numadori’s trunk was chopped. This creates a temptation to create another branch as an opposing branch, or perhaps a second, lower flat-top pad. This is where the artist introduces the problem of symmetry into their design.

In the illustration, the centerline of the trunk becomes the reflection line where the artist creates both their flat-top curve and an opposing branch. The symmetry makes it difficult for the viewer to follow the artist’s design line; the “line of the tree”. The solution to this problem is to either begin the curve of the flat-top design, or to choose one of the new branches to continue following the original line of the numadori. Do not do both. If the trunk-chop is the point of commencement for the flat-top curve, then the artist should not also create an opposing branch. Branches opposing the flat-top curve should be placed above or below this point.

Where the trunk-chop has produced several new branches, if the artist chooses to follow the original centerline, they may also choose to develop a new side branch off of the trunk. Since this side branch is not in opposition to a flat-top’s point of commencement there is no danger of introducing symmetry across the centerline of the trunk. As long as the artist chooses to place the point of commencement above this new branch, symmetry will not confuse the viewer. The point of commencement for the flat-top curve must be clearly discernable to the viewer.

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But when you trunk chop it and after a new leader presents itself
Problem: Unnatural symmetry in bald cypress flat-top bonsai.

Cause: Creating a new apex along with new branches at the chop.

Solution: Understanding how symmetry is introduced into your design and avoiding it by doing one thing at a time; New apex or new branch.

Building a flat-top bald cypress can begin with collecting an existing tree from the swamp (numadori). This often begins with a “trunk chop” to establish a starting point. Branches will form near the chop point. The artist might choose one of these new branches to be the apex of the flat-top design. This point of commencement for the curve is a departure from the centerline of the trunk. Multiple branches may form where the numadori’s trunk was chopped. This creates a temptation to create another branch as an opposing branch, or perhaps a second, lower flat-top pad. This is where the artist introduces the problem of symmetry into their design.

In the illustration, the centerline of the trunk becomes the reflection line where the artist creates both their flat-top curve and an opposing branch. The symmetry makes it difficult for the viewer to follow the artist’s design line; the “line of the tree”. The solution to this problem is to either begin the curve of the flat-top design, or to choose one of the new branches to continue following the original line of the numadori. Do not do both. If the trunk-chop is the point of commencement for the flat-top curve, then the artist should not also create an opposing branch. Branches opposing the flat-top curve should be placed above or below this point.

Where the trunk-chop has produced several new branches, if the artist chooses to follow the original centerline, they may also choose to develop a new side branch off of the trunk. Since this side branch is not in opposition to a flat-top’s point of commencement there is no danger of introducing symmetry across the centerline of the trunk. As long as the artist chooses to place the point of commencement above this new branch, symmetry will not confuse the viewer. The point of commencement for the flat-top curve must be clearly discernable to the viewer.

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How soon after the trunk chop should these decisions be made? My tree is not a collected
Problem: Unnatural symmetry in bald cypress flat-top bonsai.

Cause: Creating a new apex along with new branches at the chop.

Solution: Understanding how symmetry is introduced into your design and avoiding it by doing one thing at a time; New apex or new branch.

Building a flat-top bald cypress can begin with collecting an existing tree from the swamp (numadori). This often begins with a “trunk chop” to establish a starting point. Branches will form near the chop point. The artist might choose one of these new branches to be the apex of the flat-top design. This point of commencement for the curve is a departure from the centerline of the trunk. Multiple branches may form where the numadori’s trunk was chopped. This creates a temptation to create another branch as an opposing branch, or perhaps a second, lower flat-top pad. This is where the artist introduces the problem of symmetry into their design.

In the illustration, the centerline of the trunk becomes the reflection line where the artist creates both their flat-top curve and an opposing branch. The symmetry makes it difficult for the viewer to follow the artist’s design line; the “line of the tree”. The solution to this problem is to either begin the curve of the flat-top design, or to choose one of the new branches to continue following the original line of the numadori. Do not do both. If the trunk-chop is the point of commencement for the flat-top curve, then the artist should not also create an opposing branch. Branches opposing the flat-top curve should be placed above or below this point.

Where the trunk-chop has produced several new branches, if the artist chooses to follow the original centerline, they may also choose to develop a new side branch off of the trunk. Since this side branch is not in opposition to a flat-top’s point of commencement there is no danger of introducing symmetry across the centerline of the trunk. As long as the artist chooses to place the point of commencement above this new branch, symmetry will not confuse the viewer. The point of commencement for the flat-top curve must be clearly discernable to the viewer.

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This PDF was great, thanks for posting. This image does an awesome job of breaking down the basic design:

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Randy Bennett was one of the first people I met in bonsai. His advice is gold. He has been doing a great deal of travelling lately. If you get a chance to see him, please do!

The drawing is by Vaughn Banting (his initials bottom left of trunk). I once had the chance to be sitting with him in his home office while he explained the style to me. He didn't just explain the flat-top style, he explained how to approach bonsai design aesthetics. The second part wasn't explicitly taught, but implied. He gave me an eye for understanding what it is that makes a tree beautiful; how to break down a tree in nature into individual elements that can be explained, defended, and taught.

When I came up with the initial post for this thread, I used what Vaughn taught me. The original photo that inspired me made me break it down. I'll be bringing my design ideas to Randy.

Vaughn's drawing just so happens to follow my approach. Going up the trunk, the trunk curves just above the third branch and below the fourth branch. Neither the third nor the fourth branches originate at the commencement point of the curve. There is no symmetry created by the fourth branch.

Every box in Vaughn's drawing could take paragraphs to explain. That's part of my approach to bonsai design. I cannot say "Because it looks good" to defend my choices. I want to answer "Why" with answers that also need to be questioned "Why?"

To quote Shrek "It's getting him to shut up, that's the trick."
 
This is greatly appreciated, and I will be putting it to use on my BC this fall! The drawing is perfect...
 
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