Arakawa JBP

Brian Van Fleet

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Here is an Arakawa variety of JBP from Telperion farms. I bought it a year ago and have spent the growing season looking at different options. It has fantastic bark, a nice base, good movement and taper...and plenty of well-placed branches to work with. Pretty sure this will be the front when I do get started on it, hopefully this winter.
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Looks great- From what I can see of the trunk line, shouldn't be to many years to make something pleasing to the eye.
 
Here is an Arakawa variety of JBP from Telperion farms. I bought it a year ago and have spent the growing season looking at different options. It has fantastic bark, a nice base, good movement and taper...and plenty of well-placed branches to work with. Pretty sure this will be the front when I do get started on it, hopefully this winter.
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Brian, that's unusual growth on that JBP. WhAt I could see were most of the branches having long sections of short needles, then at the tip of the branch, a very short section of long needles! Is there an explanation?

My Telperion JBP is very vigorous, and on a sacrifice branch this summer I got two flushes of growth on a section of the tree I did not decandle. I did decandle most of the rest of the tree, so I guess it just decided to push a second flush from that part too. Interesting, the second flush from the sacrifice did NOT have short needles like the summer shoots that came from decandling.
 
@Adair M you are seeing two different years of growth, and it is a bit odd-looking.

Last year's growth (while still in OR) appears to have been pruned at some point early in the season, resulting in fairly short needless on long shoots, followed by strong buds for this year.

This year, I did not candle-cut and the needles just got crazy long.

When I select primary branches over the winter, there are plenty of shoots to choose from, and I'll be able to balance the strength of buds I'm keeping. It's cool to start in on a tree like this because in 1 year it will look totally different. Your Telperion JBP is a few seasons ahead of this one, so it will be interesting to compare notes.
 
@Adair M you are seeing two different years of growth, and it is a bit odd-looking.

Last year's growth (while still in OR) appears to have been pruned at some point early in the season, resulting in fairly short needless on long shoots, followed by strong buds for this year.

This year, I did not candle-cut and the needles just got crazy long.

When I select primary branches over the winter, there are plenty of shoots to choose from, and I'll be able to balance the strength of buds I'm keeping. It's cool to start in on a tree like this because in 1 year it will look totally different. Your Telperion JBP is a few seasons ahead of this one, so it will be interesting to compare notes.
Gotcha!

I had to do a couple grafts to put branches where I wanted them. Still letting them go w/o decandling yo let them get strong. I think Telperion must have decandled early in the growing season, my tree had long internodes, too, but I could see they had been decandling. I try to wait until mid July to do mine. Tough to wait... I get antsy waiting!

Still have a couple of grafts to place.
 
Glad to see you started a thread on this one! So many branches. Can't wait to see future updates! This thing is gonna be awesome.
 
Brian,

If you'll indulge me, I have some newbie questions on branch development here: In your April/May pics there are two longer branches with bare gaps before next candle (1st one low on front and 2nd low on left).

1. Are those branches about the final length you envision (minus ramification)? And if so, will you fill it out with those middle candles or will it need grafts?

2. If you wanted to shorten a branch like these, would you cut back to that middle candle or would you leave on the between needles and cut back to force some needle buds?

I appreciate all your posts and pics, very informative!

Thanks!
 
Mid-season update; did some pruning, branch selection and wiring in March. Moving right along...
Mid-April:
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Late May:
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Late June:
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Candle-cutting begins in a week or two...
Wonderful! To thicken the first branch on the left, you have to let it run. In doing so, will you cut the buds that extend that aren't close in and on the tip? Kind of like how you grow a sac branch on an apex?
Thanks, B.

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Didn't you start a thread on this tree? I remember it looking more shaggy than these starting pictures. This is looking good.
 
Wonderful! To thicken the first branch on the left, you have to let it run. In doing so, will you cut the buds that extend that aren't close in and on the tip? Kind of like how you grow a sac branch on an apex?
Thanks, B.

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Brian may choose a different path, but for me, I never intentionally "thicken" branches. The usual case with pines is they get too thick! I would focus on ramification, getting as many side shoots I could while the branch is young. When it's old, it's harder to get them to back bud.

Brian, this is going to be a great tree!! Bravo!!
 
Brian,

If you'll indulge me, I have some newbie questions on branch development here: In your April/May pics there are two longer branches with bare gaps before next candle (1st one low on front and 2nd low on left).

1. Are those branches about the final length you envision (minus ramification)? And if so, will you fill it out with those middle candles or will it need grafts?

2. If you wanted to shorten a branch like these, would you cut back to that middle candle or would you leave on the between needles and cut back to force some needle buds?

I appreciate all your posts and pics, very informative!

Thanks!
@hemmy : if you look closely at the branches in question in the April photo, you will see small buds appearing close to the trunk. They were adventitious buds in March, and pretty weak. Leaving longer buds beyond them was a safety net, and increases chances of smaller buds strengthening. It worked, so over time, those adventitious buds become tightly ramified branches which will replace the long shoots. Here is an example of that on a different pine:
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I haven't decided on a final "size" for this tree yet. I do like the trunk/canopy proportions in the June photo, but it will be several years before the branch density is right. It also has the 3rd section of trunk which is pretty straight and boring. I can improve that visually with some carving, but I could also remove it and replace it with a shoot that would be allowed to escape and thicken for a few years. Haven't decided yet.
 
A good first year of training left this in great shape for some winter pruning and wiring. These are the sharpest needles of any pine I've owned; it's going to get interesting when they start getting short.
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Very nice! What are the dimensions in this one?
Great transformation in such a short time. Helps to start out with beautiful material, right? It would take me 10+ years to get any of my pines to this point.
 
Little update after 2.5 years. I grew the first right branches long with the plan to cut them back to induce a closer bud.
Here is the “before shot”.
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After cutting it back:
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Then a little thinning and wiring.
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I applied a graft on the first right branch, and will be hoping for success...or a lucky back-bud.
 
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