American wisteria as bonsai...almost dwarf compared to what I am used to seeing

[barrosinc]

Nice picture Wisteria can get a little confusing as with so many plants. There are about eight species if I recall correct BUT a lot of cultivars. Some of them are listed here http://www.wisteria.it/wisteria-e.htm but I have never looked for a complete list myself. Soil should be free draining on any Wisteria and damp "not" wet(what mine used to prefer). I find they are happy being treated similar to Azalea less the Nitrogen. It is more complicated to figure out what you have then to take care of As with other plants some cultivars may prefer different sun exposure and were most likely made so. I was thinking about the ones I will be collecting there in the Spring while looking at a pot of Poison Ivy - They really have a lot of similar growth traits

Grimmy

nice find!

 

[Cadillactaste]

I have an American wisteria in my yard. It blooms after the foliage comes out and rarely does it ever bloom. Buds usually get frosted. They do wonderfully very close to the lake (Erie) as it protects them from the frost. Mine is a collected wild one so it may not parallel yours. The blossoms a very long but are hard to see because of the foliage.

See my blooms are between 2-6 inches from the spent bloom/racemes stems left from it's last bloom cycle still on. They were blooming earlier at the nursery this year. So a different variety than yours...I bet when you get a year with blooms it's pretty...surely you still see some of the blooms...if your near it...right?

Lovely setting...thanks for sharing. Do you prune yours each season?

 

[Cadillactaste]

Nice picture Wisteria can get a little confusing as with so many plants. There are about eight species if I recall correct BUT a lot of cultivars. Some of them are listed here http://www.wisteria.it/wisteria-e.htm but I have never looked for a complete list myself. Soil should be free draining on any Wisteria and damp "not" wet(what mine used to prefer). I find they are happy being treated similar to Azalea less the Nitrogen. It is more complicated to figure out what you have then to take care of As with other plants some cultivars may prefer different sun exposure and were most likely made so. I was thinking about the ones I will be collecting there in the Spring while looking at a pot of Poison Ivy - They really have a lot of similar growth traits

Grimmy

You have that right...I may never have it pegged as to the variety I own. Though I did enjoy looking at your link. Thanks for that!

Am I reading this right...you have potted...poison ivy!?!

 

[ABCarve]

See my blooms are between 2-6 inches from the spent bloom/racemes stems left from it's last bloom cycle still on. They were blooming earlier at the nursery this year. So a different variety than yours...I bet when you get a year with blooms it's pretty...surely you still see some of the blooms...if your near it...right?

Lovely setting...thanks for sharing. Do you prune yours each season?

I do prune it in mid-August. The blooms are pretty well hidden. I keep it for the twisted stalks and canopy on the fence.

 

[Cadillactaste]

I do prune it in mid-August. The blooms are pretty well hidden. I keep it for the twisted stalks and canopy on the fence.

I don't blame you for keeping it. Your yard looks like a tranquil place to just relax and enjoy what you have created. Looks lovely...

 

[GrimLore]

You have that right...I may never have it pegged as to the variety I own. Though I did enjoy looking at your link. Thanks for that!

Am I reading this right...you have potted...poison ivy!?!

It is in a growing pot, lost the poison sumac and oak. When I get more I am making a hanging basket of the three to put in the corner of the flower garden next season. I am not allergic to them as both my parents were.

Grimmy

 

[Cadillactaste]

I should have put my thumb up for comparison size. My thumb is longer than the bloom. They are so cute...so tiny compared to what I visualize as wisteria. Tons of neighbors have stopped in their golf carts asking about it. Not the traditional size long showy wisteria...but, really cute. (I love being different and finding things not planted in the neighbors yard) But that sucker at the trunk is mine next year. So going to bonsai it I believe.

 

[Cadillactaste]

If it is the Amethyst Falls...it is unusually sweet floral scented. Not really musky as ones I have heard describe it. The neighbor classified it as sweet floral scented so I am just going with her description since she has lovely flower beds...and knows flowers more than I.


Used my hand as a reference to size and how small these blooms/racemes are.

The miniature blooms I sort of favor over the largest ones that are still quite small...

 

[Cadillactaste]

Darlene, Amethyst Falls is not an ornamental tree. It is an ornamental vine, thus producing long vines and usually suckers as well. Usually they can be easily rooted.

Bill

Bill...I keep hearing these vines smell...where as mine does not. My yard is slightly high in PH level so didn't need Lyme when we had trees planted...and the yard treated. I am curious a higher PH is keeping them from smelling...or, maybe a lower PH brings about the scent they claim is cat pee.

Since your familiar with them...care to share anything on that aspect of the vine? Shedding some light on this might help the confusion. Thanks in advance.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Finally, my air layer tool from Japan arrived yesterday!!! I ordered it back in January 2020. Knowing they had to fill an order before it was placed to ship from Japan. Matt Smith swore by the tool...and it's talked about here as well in archive threads. I bought the book that ones also spoke of here...that spoke on the technique and why the tool was important for good natural nebari... An air layer tool by Masakuni. Matt, a friend...he offered to ship his to me to do the job and I could send it back. But...honestly, if this tool was so well spoken of. I wanted it for my own tool.

Anyways...as most know, covid hit. So delayed...end of the year last year...their order was filled. Several things didn't come in on the order. My tool one of them. They offered a refund...I asked if we could keep a standing order and still try and get it. I have patience. Patience paid off. Got a call yesterday...he was holding the tool in his hand and wanted me to know it would ship this week. SUPER STOKED!!! So this guy will be layered off...Now to determine where to place it.

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[yashu]

Hey @Cadillactaste , is this the same wisteria you posted this spring. I have an opportunity to pick up a wisteria frutescens for about $60. It’s 3 plants in a 3 gallon pot, same cultivar you have here and I’m just not sure if it’s worth pulling the trigger. If this is the same one as you posted this spring I thing I might just grab this plant as I really like yours.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Hey @Cadillactaste , is this the same wisteria you posted this spring. I have an opportunity to pick up a wisteria frutescens for about $60. It’s 3 plants in a 3 gallon pot, same cultivar you have here and I’m just not sure if it’s worth pulling the trigger. If this is the same one as you posted this spring I thing I might just grab this plant as I really like yours.

Unsure...most likely not this one. As this one is going to be planted down by the garage. Having two Wisteria just is a bother. You've got to let them run. So I keep them off my regular benches. The Asian variety is my favorite of the two. Possibly because I've the mother tree in the yard already of this one.

Now they are amazing bloomers this cultivar. Bill Valavanis has some...I'm not knocking the cultivar. Just...no, I don't wish for two Wisteria in pots. My shuffle with crazy spring/summer storms with tornado threats. I'm moving trees into the greenhouse. The Wisteria need to be permitted to run. So...very bothersome. Two in there. Though...this American variety isn't as aggressive in the growth. I have one in the landscape so it puts me off.

 

[yashu]

Thanks for the insight. I ended up grabbing this one simply because I lack self control but from my internet snooping I figured out that it is the same variety that Bill V had. Wisteria frutescens Amethyst Falls. At the very least it will be a learning experience. I’ve potted one of the plants and the other will go at the base of my lamppost in the front yard.

 

[Cadillactaste]

Thanks for the insight. I ended up grabbing this one simply because I lack self control but from my internet snooping I figured out that it is the same variety that Bill V had. Wisteria frutescens Amethyst Falls. At the very least it will be a learning experience. I’ve potted one of the plants and the other will go at the base of my lamppost in the front yard.

Truthfully....not near as aggressive growing as the Asian varieties. I just didn't need two in a pot. They are bulletproof blooming.