Aloha from Maui - Beginner Bonsai - LOTS of PICS

Alex W.

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Aloha everyone,

New to this forum and new to the hobby. VERY excited to be starting this hobby. I currently have three trees in bonsai pots with a few others in their nursery pots for now. Got all three trees from a local bonsai garden, probably the only one on Maui (Olinda's Bonsai).
  • Juniper
  • Serissa
  • Fukien Tea
I've attached a few photos of my three trees in bonsai pots including photos of what I THINK is something that's wrong with the trees. I would LOVE to hear your guys' opinions and suggestions about the current status of my trees and/or anything you guys might see wrong?

On one note, I repotted the fukien tea that I got from my local bonsai garden with soil provided by the grower. Did some research and watched a few tutorials on repotting bonsai's, however the fukien doesn't seem to be adjusting well to the pot. I'm beginning to question if the soil mix that was given to me is retaining too much water? Am I overwatering? Did I not trim the roots properly? Etc.?

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Approximately 5 years old

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hi there and welcome! :)

Must not be easy to keep a healthy juniper in HI ;)

The soil of your fukien tree seems to be very rich in organics, may be it retains too much water indeed. Normally when you water your tree if the drainage is good it should seems like flowing directly thru it.
Don't you have pure lava rock all over in HI? I know Hawaiians volcanoes are mainly effusive with pahoehoe lava flow but it must be possible to take a shovel and go fill a potato pouch on the beach no? ;)

Also the yellow and dead leaves could be just a reaction of the tree to the repot.
I know nothing about fukien trees but ficus react like that to environment's changes...
More knowledgeable Nuts will certainly know better.
 
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Welcome to Crazy!

Fukien the Tea tree....they are difficult.
But you should find it does quite well for you there.

Sorce
 
Yeah, this week's project is to make my own soil composition using local rock. I had considered getting pre-mixed bags and having them shipped to the island, but I think its going to be very costly.

I'll be keeping a CLOSE eye on the Fukien Tea in the upcoming weeks

hi there and welcome! :)

Must not be easy to keep a healthy juniper in HI ;)

The soil of your fukien tree seems to be very rich in organics, may be it retains too much water indeed. Normally when you water your tree if the drainage is good it should seems like flowing directly thru it.
Don't you have pure lava rock all over in HI? I know Hawaiians volcanoes are mainly effusive with pahoehoe lava flow but it must be possible to take a shovel and go fill a potato pouch on the beach no? ;)

Also the yellow and dead leaves could be just a reaction of the tree to the repot.
I know nothing about fukien trees but ficus react like that to environment's changes...
More knowledgeable Nuts will certainly know better.
 
Yeah, this week's project is to make my own soil composition using local rock. I had considered getting pre-mixed bags and having them shipped to the island, but I think its going to be very costly.

I'll be keeping a CLOSE eye on the Fukien Tea in the upcoming weeks

I just had a quick look at Maui on Wikipedia: if I was you I'll take a trip to the Haleakala crater, and instead of buying adakama I would sell it :D
Also normally Nuts People mix their own soil, you will never get what you really want with pre-mixed bags (not mentioning the cost).


Anyway you seem to be the kind of guy that love a challenge:
- a juniper in the tropics,
- a fukien tea which, according to @sorce , are difficult
- a serissa, I call my own 'le casse couille' (which could be translated by 'the balls buster') for its pain in the ass behavior :)

Speaking of which when you will have resolve your soil's dilemma you could start thinking to another interesting problem which will be the dormancy period the juniper and serissa need ;)
In fact the only period my serissa didn't break my balls since I bought it last summer has been this winter as it looks perfectly happy for the 1st time at 50-55 F
 
"I'm not superstitious, I'm just stitious" - Michael Scott

But seriously, there's an urban legend about lava rocks / sand / shells being taken from the islands and giving those people really bad luck. If I went up there, I would use it for my own benefits haha.

Yeah it does seem like bonsai is going to be a little bit of a challenge considering where I live on the island. My side gets plenty of sun, but occasional heavy downpours and strong winds. In fact, I got home from work yesterday and noticed my Serissa had bloomed (3) little white flowers within 24 hours. However, there were VERY strong winds last night, and even though the tree was up against the backside of a wall, protected from the direction of winds, the flowers had been blown off...oh well!

As for dormancy periods, its 70-85 degrees ALL year in Hawaii. What can I do?

I just had a quick look at Maui on Wikipedia: if I was you I'll take a trip to the Haleakala crater, and instead of buying adakama I would sell it :D
Also normally Nuts People mix their own soil, you will never get what you really want with pre-mixed bags (not mentioning the cost).


Anyway you seem to be the kind of guy that love a challenge:
- a juniper in the tropics,
- a fukien tea which, according to @sorce , are difficult
- a serissa, I call my own 'le casse couille' (which could be translated by 'the balls buster') for its pain in the ass behavior :)

Speaking of which when you will have resolve your soil's dilemma you could start thinking to another interesting problem which will be the dormancy period the juniper and serissa need ;)
In fact the only period my serissa didn't break my balls since I bought it last summer has been this winter as it looks perfectly happy for the 1st time at 50-55 F
 
With regards to your Bonsai, I would go back to basics and confirm things like:

Placement – Are your Bonsai in the same light, wind and temperature conditions as before you purchased them. This will be difficult to tell with the trees you purchased online. (I tend to discourage purchasing Bonsai trees online because you’re not sure of the optimal conditions for that particular tree.) You may have to research online what type of sunlight conditions are best for the trees you purchased online.

Sun Light – Some trees like full sun, some partial. If you’re not sure research online as to how much sun your particular tree needs. Your photos show your trees next to the side of a building. I’m not sure if this is where they are kept, but if so you want to make sure they are getting the morning sun light.

Too much wind is one of the worst things for your Bonsai because it dries out the tree. Make sure they are not in an area that receives constant wind.

Water- Are your trees getting the correct amount of water at the correct time? Here’s a goofy little video I put together on watering your Bonsai:
http://bonsaimentor.com/bonsai-blog/88-how-to-water-your-bonsai.html

I know these may seem simple, but too many times I’ve seen situations where people see a change with their Bonsai tree and start throwing fertilizer, insect spray and other things while overlooking the basics. I myself have been guilty of this too.

With regards to your photos:
White Build Up
It’s difficult to tell, but the white build up seems like a natural occurrence from being in a damp environment that happens over time. (You see similar build up on stones). I would not worry too much about it. You could dampen it and then remove with a gentle tooth brush or other means that will not harm the bark. It’s always a good rule to attempt using physical means of removing things before spraying with chemicals.

Repotted Fukien Tea
I’m not sure when you repotted the Fukien Tea, but winter time (even though we live in Hawaii) is not a good time to repot Bonsai.

Trees have a natural occurrence of storing nutrients in their roots during the winter. When spring rolls around, the tree draws from this source to bring it out of dormancy.

By repotting, which when properly done involves removing roots, you take away these stored nutrients. When spring time rolls around the tree struggles to come out of dormancy.

I’m not sure what type of soil you used, but it does not look like Bonsai soil and I would question whether it’s getting proper drainage.

Fukien Teas are pretty hardy trees. I would just make sure it has good morning sunlight, while we still have some cool weather water it once a day before 9am.

I would not throw any fertilizer at until the new roots develop.

Once we get a 2-3 weeks more into spring, you may want to defoliate (remove) all the leaves. This may help to jump start the photo synthesis.

Anyways that my take on things. I hope it may be of some use. Just remember having Bonsai as a hobby requires patience and consistency. Doing a little each day is way more effective than doing a lot from time to time.

Let me know if I can help any further. I always like to talk about Bonsai. Also, I will post this in the forum as well. I’d be interested in any feedback from the other members.
 
As for dormancy periods, its 70-85 degrees ALL year in Hawaii. What can I do?

That's the point :)

as I live in IL I guess you could imagine that I don't have dormancy problem ;)
My problem being more to avoid my tropical to get the flu 9 months of the year.
I obviously didn't do a great job this year as all my ficus died... :(
Shits happen, they were Walmart ficus anyway, not such a big deal even if it pissed me off.

But you've got time to think about it and some Tropical Nuts will certainly know what to do.

For you serissa that lost its flowers: my own experience is that serissa react at the speed of the light basically!
When mine doesn't like something it let me know immediately: for example if I move it the very same day half of its leaves are yellow. If it goes back to a place it likes then everything goes back to normal.
It's a bit stressful because it looks like it's saying 'F...you, F...you, F...you' all the time but it also has the good side that you know very quickly if something is wrong. With other trees (like junipers for example) the tree could look healthy but in fact is already dead since a while...
 
You're right about the Serissa, its incredibly moody like a teenage girl. Just this morning, two more flowers bloomed on different branches. Guaranteed they'll fall off by the end of the day since the winds are still pretty strong. It seems I may have a found a good for it though. I definitely like the fact that my Serissa isn't afraid to show it's feelings so quickly.

I started this hobby about a month ago and I must say, the obsession is real...

That's the point :)

as I live in IL I guess you could imagine that I don't have dormancy problem ;)
My problem being more to avoid my tropical to get the flu 9 months of the year.
I obviously didn't do a great job this year as all my ficus died... :(
Shits happen, they were Walmart ficus anyway, not such a big deal even if it pissed me off.

But you've got time to think about it and some Tropical Nuts will certainly know what to do.

For you serissa that lost its flowers: my own experience is that serissa react at the speed of the light basically!
When mine doesn't like something it let me know immediately: for example if I move it the very same day half of its leaves are yellow. If it goes back to a place it likes then everything goes back to normal.
It's a bit stressful because it looks like it's saying 'F...you, F...you, F...you' all the time but it also has the good side that you know very quickly if something is wrong. With other trees (like junipers for example) the tree could look healthy but in fact is already dead since a while...
 
I bet you can get some great ficus there that would be great for bonsai. You should probably try some.
 
dude, if you're in hawaii, go get some of David Fukumoto's stuff, or better yet, go visit him on the Big Island. Fukubonsai.com. You will be inspired and floored by all the cool stuff he has there.

as sorce would say, welcome to crazy! your off to a good start!
 
You're right about the Serissa, its incredibly moody like a teenage girl. Just this morning, two more flowers bloomed on different branches. Guaranteed they'll fall off by the end of the day since the winds are still pretty strong. It seems I may have a found a good for it though. I definitely like the fact that my Serissa isn't afraid to show it's feelings so quickly.

I started this hobby about a month ago and I must say, the obsession is real...

Right on!
Serissa is like a teenage girl, pissed off, on period, during a full moon.o_O:eek:
And yes it makes it much easier to know if something goes wrong.

dude, if you're in hawaii, go get some of David Fukumoto's stuff, or better yet, go visit him on the Big Island. Fukubonsai.com. You will be inspired and floored by all the cool stuff he has there.

as sorce would say, welcome to crazy! your off to a good start!

That's the guy I think!
I was looking for his name since yesterday evening.
This artist makes incredible things with Schlefferia.:cool:

Actually that's was the point I wanted to stress out: always think in function of your location. I didn't always. I buried a lot...:(
I went to a nursery in Fl for Thanksgiving and there were some junipers but the owner told me that it was really hard to make them thrive in this climate.
On the other hand we find schlefferia in all big retailers in Illinois (Walmart, Home depot etc...) but I am pretty sure that whatever time/money/energy I'd put into it if I buy one it will always looks like an house plant and never like the ones Mr Fukumoto have.

I'm sure that in Hawaii you have endless possibilities with all the tropical you could think off.

And as you declared yourself: 'Hello, my name is Alex and I do bonsai'
I will say that Welcome to the Addiction :p
 
unfortunately, it takes a long time for a home depot plant to look like the following...you are correct in that.
 

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unfortunately, it takes a long time for a home depot plant to look like the following...you are correct in that.

Sweet :cool:
Those are yours? You are Jerry Meislik?
 
haha i wish

mine looks like this currently (pictures from 2014), for another 2 years it will be wrapped in foil most likely...getting closer though! I've waited 4 years already...must have patience....for killer bonsai
 

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