discusmike
Omono
Your deshojo is nice,i dont think it needs ground layering,get as much info as possible before trying anything that could be detrimental to the tree like defoliating,best of luck
Acer palmatum 'deshojo'
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discusmike
Omono
If it were mine id focus on growing out nice mature tapered branches,proper canapy,ditch the pot in spring,love to see the tree naked
Shun
Mame
Oh.. i did not know we shouldnt defoliate it!
Noted!
Partial defoliation is ok? What happens if full defoliation occurs? Branch dieback randomly?
The short spanlife of deshojo maples ate hoax, right?
I wanted to do it in order to clean up the structure and maybe wire a bit..
I didnt want to wait untill next spring to do it (yeah i know.. bonsai means patience lol )
Shun
Mame
Yes yes! My plan is to develop taper on the main branches I will keep and start studying areas where the tree would benefit from grafting
First I need to see her nakedddd! Hehehehe
Also i want to finish closing the drastic pruning scars it has.. (mainly only 2 are larger, the rest is almost closed)
discusmike
Omono
Defoliating weakens trees,if the tree is not strong enough it can die,deshojo is known for not being a strong grower,you have many other things that need to be addressed before considering defoliating,grow some gnarly old branches,work the roots in spring,you nebari will get better
discusmike
Omono
Scrape the cambium around the scar to keep the tree calousing,during the growing season ofcourse
0soyoung
Imperial Masterpiece
BUNK
Shun
Mame
Sure thing! I reactivated the scar and put some cut paste over it! Hope to close the wounds soon!
discusmike
Omono
Branches help,growing freely in the ground seems to work best for me,first ive heard of scraping the cambium being bunk
0soyoung
Imperial Masterpiece
The wound closes by the same growth mechanisms as stems thicken. The cambium is just under the outer surface of the lip, so cutting it doesn't do much of anything helpful.
The primary issue is managing the supply of photosynthates to the edges of the wound, the doing of which is generally not obvious. A branch just above the wound is a good supplier of photosynthates, but isn't present/possible in a large number of common circumstances.
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Not from what I've heard or read. It's too bad too. They're beautiful trees. If they survived here I would have Japanese maples coming out the butt!
ajm55555
Chumono
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From what I read they can live 50-100 years if they don't get Verticillium Wilt or similar diseases. Exposure to full sun seems to shorten the life span too. They need a lot of care but that's because they're so beautiful ;-)
discusmike
Omono
I lost a chisio improved this summer to the wilt,to much rain every eeek kept the ground saturated,was planning on digging it this spring five years wasted!
discusmike
Omono
Luckily i have a few cuttings from the tree so ill try again!
ajm55555
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Sorry about that. I'm also at the mercy of the weather a few times during the year so I'm always trying to understand what makes them sick or they really love. Nothing will change the fact that they are my favorite species
Timbo
Chumono
Must be nice, anything over 1/2 inch truck is $100+ here. Some rare one $400+ for a 1-2 inch trunk.
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
If I lived in Kalkaska I'd forgo the Japanese maples. It's a cold zone 5 over there. In pots they might not make it through the winter.Must be nice, anything over 1/2 inch truck is $100+ here. Some rare one $400+ for a 1-2 inch trunk.
I know Japanese maples are great bonsai but sometimes we can't have it all. I know,I've been there.
You know that railroad track that goes to Mancelona? Runs along 31 I think it is. There are some great scots pines along that thing. I would check but I don't think they would mind someone digging some. They clear them out every so often anyways.
If you go the other way towards Cadillac there is a swamp just outside Kalkaska with tamarack in it.
You see I have a collecting problem. My wife catches me noting trees when we go for drives. I know every roadside collectable tree within a 100 mile radius. They're all in my head.
Shun
Mame
Oh... I believe 50-100 years is more than enough for me, then! meanwhile I get to enjoy the fiery red spring growth! Hope I'll be able to develop this material the way it needs
Timbo
Chumono
I've been trying to do the hardier ones like Korean maple, Shantung maple, Tatarian Maple, maybe even Vine maple. Manchurian maple looks nice too. Hard to get without starting from seed though.
I bought 2 Korean maple seedlings a few years ago, they look really nice, suppose to be faster growing. Not many trees grow fast enough though.
I may make the Japanese maples a landscaping tree...even with die back around here they live.
I can't have enough larches with that lime green/neon yellow in fall! Hardy and fast growing...just about everything you want.
I need a good 2 inch+ Tamarack...most i see here are telephone poles that won't backbud.
Scots pines look nice...do you collect Jack pine also?
You're gonna have to show me in spring.
I know the areas but i can't visually place it. Those swampy Larches peak my interest.
612 also has some pines along the road and some gov land just rotting away.
I'm slowing done on pines till i can keep them alive better..they don't like my re-potting.
I bought 2 Korean maple seedlings a few years ago, they look really nice, suppose to be faster growing. Not many trees grow fast enough though.
I may make the Japanese maples a landscaping tree...even with die back around here they live.
I can't have enough larches with that lime green/neon yellow in fall! Hardy and fast growing...just about everything you want.
I need a good 2 inch+ Tamarack...most i see here are telephone poles that won't backbud.
Scots pines look nice...do you collect Jack pine also?
You're gonna have to show me in spring.
I know the areas but i can't visually place it. Those swampy Larches peak my interest.612 also has some pines along the road and some gov land just rotting away.
I'm slowing done on pines till i can keep them alive better..they don't like my re-potting.
