A Group of Winged Elms on a Rock
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Omono
Where do you get stone like that?
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
I like that! Although it needs a baby Koi and a fisherman 
Kidding aside that is one hella rock and a very nice planting. How large is the saucer?
Grimmy
Kidding aside that is one hella rock and a very nice planting. How large is the saucer?Grimmy
Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
Thanks Guys...
The rock is actually a type of volcanic rock mined in the western US and sold under the name Lace Rock. I usually buy mine at local aquarium stores...it usually runs about 2-3$/pound...which is pretty cheap when compared to nice pots
Texas Holey Rock is very different and limestone based...I would suspect that you would need to be very careful using holey rock to plant on as it is going to adversely affect the ph of the soil....
John
The rock is actually a type of volcanic rock mined in the western US and sold under the name Lace Rock. I usually buy mine at local aquarium stores...it usually runs about 2-3$/pound...which is pretty cheap when compared to nice pots
Texas Holey Rock is very different and limestone based...I would suspect that you would need to be very careful using holey rock to plant on as it is going to adversely affect the ph of the soil....
John
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Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
John is correct. TX Holey rocks are limestone and not same as volcanic rock.
I like that! Although it needs a baby Koi and a fisherman
Grimmy
Thanks Grimmy...I am @ work right now but I guess the tray is at least 24"...its pretty large for a suiban.
John
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
I expected it was large and I asked so others would know. I am an avid fan of the big stuff as you know
Also curious if you used the cement and wire method to secure the trees or does that medium accept good old fashioned brass screws?Grimmy
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I expected it was large and I asked so others would know. I am an avid fan of the big stuff as you know
Grimmy
I know you are...but I would still love to see some of it...you need share some things
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
I know you are...but I would still love to see some of it...you need share some things
Understood, as we have moved to another property we are in a bit of "craziness" at this time. There are four pallets of supplies and stock in one of the barns at Grandmothers place and maybe 15 - 20 trees here all in sheds as we are still having frosts. After the weather breaks the new fence goes up and benches and I will be putting together a little portfolio of what is left.
I meant to ask did you cement wire to that medium to hold those trees or can you use good old fashioned brass screws on it?
Grimmy
I have a lot of rock plantings and for years I have used hydraulic cement to attach wires or wire loops....with mostly poor to average results. This time I used super glue and baking soda to secure wire loops...a little trick Bill V. shared.
When you go to attach the wire to the stone...set the wire in place...then add a small pile of baking soda to the base of the wire(about an inch wide and an inch deep)...then put several drops of super glue on the baking soda and wire...in just a of couple of minutes it is cured and you are ready to tie down trees.
Its really easy and seems to work well most of the time...I seem to get about a 10% failure compared to a 50% failure with hydraulic cement.
John
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
Thank you! Mine were falling apart on a pretty regular basis and the epoxy takes an awful long time to set and in addition takes a long time to air off. I avoided projects for over 2 years because of it. This information has my "gears spinning" once again
Grimmy
Grimmy
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Looks good! Hope you'll show it in leaf too.
Thanks for the tip on where to find these kinds of rocks.
Chris
Thanks for the tip on where to find these kinds of rocks.
Chris
Eric Group
Masterpiece
Am I crazy, or does this one look like the Millennium Falcon? Maybe I have just watched too much Star Wars...
That is funny...I do see a little resemblance...I also have another stone that I call the millennium Falcon...that is what my Dad saw when he looked at it so I have always held on to that nickname.
J
Waldo Street Pottery
Chumono
Fantastic, as usual!
MACH5
Imperial Masterpiece
Very nice work John as always! I like the composition you've created. I am thinking of doing work on rocks possibly with Japanese maples. I am starting to locate good sources for stone/rock in my area although no luck yet.
Thanks again for sharing
Thanks again for sharing
Very nice work John as always! I like the composition you've created. I am thinking of doing work on rocks possibly with Japanese maples. I am starting to locate good sources for stone/rock in my area although no luck yet.
Thanks again for sharing
thanks Speed Racer...how's chim-chim?
Good stones to plant on are really hard to find...to me they are much harder to find than good pots...and thus more valuable to me!
I encourage to check out the fish stores...not big box stores but local mom&pops...Lace Rock is available all across the nation through their wholesalers but the box and by the pallet...you really want to find somebody that brings in the pallets...typically larger stones and better for our purpose.
I did see Rodney Clemons use hydraulic cement to connect 3 smaller lace rocks to do one planting...it worked in the demo...I am not sure what the long term success was??
Racer X
Very nice work John as always! I like the composition you've created. I am thinking of doing work on rocks possibly with Japanese maples. I am starting to locate good sources for stone/rock in my area although no luck yet.
Thanks again for sharing
On another note..I have tried J. Maples a couple of times on stones with only limited success...If you can, give them plenty of soil/muck on the rock... and definitely maintain the planting over a water basin to help keep it from drying out. Please share when you get there!!
John
