25 US National Prize Winners

There was one tiny sign on the front desk saying no photos - that being said - everyone was taking photos. Bill even stopped to wait while @yashu took one 🤣

We'll get some posted.
When I was getting inside somebody there (not sure who it was) said photos are alright but no tripods and no videos
 
There was one tiny sign on the front desk saying no photos - that being said - everyone was taking photos. Bill even stopped to wait while @yashu took one 🤣

We'll get some posted.
Full disclosure; I did not see the little circle slash camera thingy until later… and I was using my phone🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Great trunk, overall structure good, but I found the two different needle sizes (last years vs this years) very...distracting? Maybe not the right word but definitely detracted from the overall impression. Last year's needles too long and messy, this year's too short. Curious if that's what you are referring to, or something else...

Yes. Ideally you would have skipped decandling this year. Showing a tree with cut needles and half formed shoots is not a good look. I was shocked it won anything.
 
There was one tiny sign on the front desk saying no photos - that being said - everyone was taking photos. Bill even stopped to wait while @yashu took one 🤣

We'll get some posted.
As my wife tells me I never Read signs so glad I didnt see that as I took pictures 😂
 
There was some controversy about the winner of Best Literati; some people (including some I respect very highly) felt it's not really a literati! REALLY nice tree but I'm not sure how the judges came to that decision.
 
There was some controversy about the winner of Best Literati; some people (including some I respect very highly) felt it's not really a literati! REALLY nice tree but I'm not sure how the judges came to that decision.
Wow didn’t even realize when I saw that tree was considered literati.
 
The bunjin was very nice.

Beautiful tree but I don't think I'd ever consider that a literati, much less the best literati in the room?

Best in show was a large pine that was not worked properly to be shown at this time.
Glad you said it Rudd. Couldn’t believe this was the winner. Just my take

I'm not sure I can endorse the best in show decision, but this is an amazing tree. Suzuki-san from Daiju-en was one of the judges, and he's definitely got an eye for black pines. Wes Jones is one of Andrew Robson's clients, and he gave a little more context for the tree here:
. It's 500+ years old, collected from Korea, imported to the US back in the 80s. The bark on that tree was amazing, and these photos are doing a bad job of recreating my feeling of seeing the tree. The short and long needles are distracting and a bit unkempt, but that was the only thing I could critique on this tree. It's immediately apparent age trumps everything else to me

I really struggled with the best deciduous pick. The fall color looks great on the tree, but it looked dramatically different under the foliage to me. I thought it was the canopy was grown out of the proper size silhouette, and the internodes at the end of the branches were longer than the ones closer to the trunk
 
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I watched this video with Andrew as well. I appreciate the historical context and provenance of the tree. I just think the expectation at a show like this is to cross your t’s and dot your i’s… the highest level of execution. One of the docents commented that it probably would not have been acceptable in a Japanese show, but we let more things slide in the US.

For the record, I am playing armchair quarterback.
 
I watched this video with Andrew as well. I appreciate the historical context and provenance of the tree. I just think the expectation at a show like this is to cross your t’s and dot your i’s… the highest level of execution. One of the docents commented that it probably would not have been acceptable in a Japanese show, but we let more things slide in the US.

For the record, I am playing armchair quarterback.
Beautiful tree but I don't think I'd ever consider that a literati, much less the best literati in the room?




I'm not sure I can endorse the best in show decision, but this is an amazing tree. Suzuki-san from Daiju-en was one of the judges, and he's definitely got an eye for black pines. Wes Jones is one of Andrew Robson's clients, and he gave a little more context for the tree here:
. It's 500+ years old, collected from Korea, imported to the US back in the 80s. The bark on that tree was amazing, and these photos are doing a bad job of recreating my feeling of seeing the tree. The short and long needles are distracting and a bit unkempt, but that was the only thing I could critique on this tree. It's immediately apparent age trumps everything else to me

I really struggled with the best deciduous pick. The fall color looks great on the tree, but it looked dramatically different under the foliage to me. I thought it was the canopy was grown out of the proper size silhouette, and the internodes at the end of the branches were longer than the ones closer to the trunk
100% with you on the armchair quarterback @Vincent Tanner . But I just find it crazy that flaws in the design, horticulture etc are being written off as secondary to the features that had nothing to do with the artist.

It begs the question, are we awarding the tree the win or the artist who presents it? I would think the awards should be reserved for not just exceptional
trees (which this tree is) but also exceptional work (which from my armchair quarterback position, this tree is not).
 
The short and long needles are distracting and a bit unkempt, but that was the only thing I could critique on this tree.
My feelings exactly!

One of the docents commented that it probably would not have been acceptable in a Japanese show, but we let more things slide in the US.
Good point! I did notice some unkempt details on some of the trees, though usually they were minor ones.

On the other hand... during Mr. Suzuki's demo on Sunday, he stated that some of the trees at the show could easily have got into the Kokufu-ten if they were in Japan. I don't think he was just being charitable!

Notably, he did not state that any would WIN at Kokufu...
 
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