Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I don't think I can say anything here without you thinking I am trying to pick a fight, but yes there is an answer.
Good? or trash?
- Thread starter Jarod Perdichizzi
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Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Brief history of a Shohin Mugo Pine: 20000-2015. This was on all accounts a throw away tree in 2000, many said it was a waste of time but I kept with it. I learned a lot from it.
2000, raw material that had a bit of a trunk line was cut back hard.
2012 as the tree had developed over six years.
2012 First major styling
2015 Refinement styling 2015
As for me I like the little tree.
2000, raw material that had a bit of a trunk line was cut back hard.
2012 as the tree had developed over six years.
2012 First major styling
2015 Refinement styling 2015
As for me I like the little tree.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
This could be a problem Vance.....
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Not for you I am sure. Though I will hate myself for asking,-----what is the problem that you see?
PaulH
Omono
I read this that Smoke thinks its a problem if you don't know a masterpiece when you see it.... tongue in cheek, I think. I interpreted your"I don't know" as modesty.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
I still can't believe the poster tossed his tree in a dumpster over what a few said. Then went and retrieved it after what a few more had to say.
Note...not everyone sees eye to eye. There are bonsai styles/types for everyone...but many are for a select few.
Note...not everyone sees eye to eye. There are bonsai styles/types for everyone...but many are for a select few.
GSCarlson
Shohin
No offense against the OP, but I would have a hard time throwing away any plant, no matter how bad it looks. I am glad he was able to retrieve it. Maybe he can send it to someone here who can transform it to a gem, if possible. As a newbie, I would like to see the process.
Jarod Perdichizzi
Yamadori
Guess I'm trying to take advice from everyone...
barrosinc
Masterpiece
If you are going to throw it away... putting it in the ground and neglecting it for 4-5 years can make a huge difference. You never know what will come up.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
Advice is meant to be chewed on...and see if it's your own vision. When given direction to style. Never rash...
A good friend of mine from the UK told me a story of him earlier on with bonsai. He had a tree he was developing. Loved the tree...seen the vision. Took it to a workshop and some master bonsai guy looked it over...seen "his own vision" and started to remove a valuable section which my friend needed to keep going in the direction he seen. Instead of grabbing the wrist for fear of offending. He did not stop and explain his own vision,and how that section of tree fit into his mental picture. So he left and took his tree home. Just sick...his vision now lost forever in the tree he once loved. So he built on the masters vision...the tree was stunning to many. Yet he looked upon it as a valuable lesson learned. His love for the tree gone...he sold it. Never will he sit back and just let someone remove what he's not certain he may need. But thank the one...and chew on the information. If later it lines up to what he can see. Then he will follow their advice. But...If he doesn't see it as his own final vision.. it's put aside.
Now horticultural advice is researching and asking questions when you don't understand. Even if advice offered...being new,your not to know if it was information gained by reading or doing. So I am not even fast to jump but chew as well. See what all voice in...and again, hit that search area of this forum. Valuable archives at your fingertips.
Jarod Perdichizzi
Yamadori
Okay. Thank you. I apologize to everyone if I came off rash.
Jarod Perdichizzi
Yamadori
I will continue to chew on info givin to me and to build off my own vision. Thanks
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I recently went through my old Windows based portable hard drives and found some files I though I had lost. This one shows the evolution of a throw away Mugo. I posted the current picture of it earlier but none of you have seen this.
This tree was again one of my learning experiences. You will notice the extreme wire scars on the trunk, and the major branches. This tree had been around the block since 1998 or so and in 2000 we have this little mess going into a bonsai pot.
I think you will notice how the wire scars have morphed into a character of the trunk and don't look like wire scars any longer.
This tree was again one of my learning experiences. You will notice the extreme wire scars on the trunk, and the major branches. This tree had been around the block since 1998 or so and in 2000 we have this little mess going into a bonsai pot.
I think you will notice how the wire scars have morphed into a character of the trunk and don't look like wire scars any longer.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
You're welcome. And apology accepted...I was fortunate to stumble upon my friend in the UK. His story helped ground me...in learning to chew and savor information gained.
Trust me...I was a crazy fool wanting to be a sponge when I first joined.( Like Hammie from Over the Hedge. Quite embarrassing actually! ) We all tend to sometimes not put our best foot forward at times. Especially early on...on our bonsai journey.
amcoffeegirl
Masterpiece
If you want info on mugos go to Vance's profile and started reading all of his old threads. You will find a lot of info and it will take hours. Your tree may even grow a new branch before you are finished. I hope it lives. Ask lots of questions and when you see a photo of a tree you love ask the forum member lots of info for that specific tree.
There are a lot of ways to get great results- find what works best for you.
Vance can give you so much info on mugos your brain may explode.
There are a lot of ways to get great results- find what works best for you.
Vance can give you so much info on mugos your brain may explode.
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
Good point Denise! When I hear or read the word Mugo...Vance's name comes to mind. This new fellow doesn't know that!
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
So many people take this tree for granted and ignore it. It's not sexy like JBP, or JWP but it performs like no other tree. If you take it seriously it will do so many things for you don't be surprised if you find it becoming a tree of choice.
Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
And it may have been the best one for future work
."Too late guys... Out of the many posts... I decided to trash it and start a new one." "You just threw it out"!
Not by doing stupid impatient things like that
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Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
Then why not shut up and quit being such a jerk
. There are NO junk living trees!
jomawa
Shohin
Jarod, by simply reading/trolling? through this thread I must give you kudos for you're strength and fortitude to simply throw a mugo bonsai in the garbage (but it certainly may have been an incredibly wrong impulse -but was given new hope to both you and the tree by its retrieval). I tend to stick with maples, don't know whether to call your pine mug-o or moogo, but I digress. In my case, as can be seen in my avatar I had the gall/ignorance to bring back from the woods some "young" vine maples. I do not have the strength to simply throw these away thinking maybe (maybe not) I can learn something other than "don't ever, ever, ever, do that again!!!" Giving me the benefit of the doubt, (rather than laughing histerically at me for this gross bonsai foible) this bonsai in a soapdish is called "Whimsy", but I digress. OK, I'll get to the point, we make decisions in life, some good, some bad, some we should learn from, some bad ones we simply repeat over and over. Point: Whatever decisions you make in bonsai (and life), try to throw enough fact and detail into the pot to most often come up with the wisest choice. Again, kudos for the strength to trash a bonsai and then the strength to reverse that decision. Your Challenge: Determine which was the right choice???
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