Bonsai species for partial sun

[ThomasToft]

Hello.

What are some good species for partial or minimal sun?
I have attachted a picture of my outdoor space.
The blue lines are all my backyard/alley highlighted.
The green lines are where i already have thriving trees.
The yellow lines are where the sun starts at morning an ends about 2-3 hours later.
My question is: Is it possible to have trees on the red lines? They will receive 2-3 hours a day from mid spring to early fall (i would say).
And better yet some species i can have at display in the winther if possible.
Thanks

 

[leatherback]

Taxus does amazingly well in a more shaded position.

Adding your location and USDA climate zone (in your profile) can help people be more exact in answers, fitting to your generic weather profile

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

Azaleas and maples would also do well, given you are acceptable climatic conditions.

But we do need basic information before we can properly answer your questions.

To add your approximate location and USDA PLANT Hardiness Zone. Go to your icon atop the page. Double tap, then tap Account Details, scroll down and enter this information.

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[penumbra]

To the above add boxwood, hinoki, Chinese elm, hemlock, hornbeam, and a host of others.

 

[ThomasToft]

I thought most decidious species needed like 5-7 of direct sun in growing season.
I dont know much about USDA zones.
What i know is that the temperatures go up to about 20-27 degrees celcius when it the hottest and rarely below -10 degrees celcius in winter at night Sometimes it will be like 0 to -3 most of the time at day in some weeks. I live in Denmark near the sea.

 

[penumbra]

Please add your location to your profile to be certain you get proper responses per your conditions.

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

I thought most decidious species needed like 5-7 of direct sun in growing season.
I dont know much about USDA zones.
What i know is that the temperatures go up to about 20-27 degrees celcius when it the hottest and rarely below -10 degrees celcius in winter at night Sometimes it will be like 0 to -3 most of the time at day in some weeks. I live in Denmark near the sea.

Try this link. It should help you.

https://www.plantmaps.com/interactive-denmark-plant-hardiness-zone-map-celsius.php

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[ThomasToft]

Try this link. It should help you.

https://www.plantmaps.com/interactive-denmark-plant-hardiness-zone-map-celsius.php

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According to the map, it would be 8a

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

That’s great, node you can enter these days on your icon profile so we can help you better in the future.

The icon is on your every post and the appropriate location and USDA zone are some of the first things we all look at before giving advice.

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[Deep Sea Diver]

All the species mentioned should be fine for your location, however azaleas and any tree recently worked/wired should not be out in below 0C temperatures.

A greenhouse or not freezing garage etc can tide a tree over during these times.

You might want to PM @Berra who is also in Sweden and is a member here for a number of years.

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[ThomasToft]

All the species mentioned should be fine for your location, however azaleas and any tree recently worked/wired should not be out in below 0C temperatures.

A greenhouse or not freezing garage etc can tide a tree over during these times.

You might want to PM @Berra who is also in Sweden and is a member here for a number of years.

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So i wont kill any trees due to lack of light, recieving only morgning sun? I forgot to mention at the neighbour has a tree that Will ve blocking the Sun for at least 30-45 min of the morning sun. So in that locantion there Will only be around 2 hours of direct morning sun.
Will the species mentioned above cope with mild freezing temps for serveral days being in relatively shallow pots?

 

[Lorax7]

All the species mentioned should be fine for your location, however azaleas and any tree recently worked/wired should not be out in below 0C temperatures.

Depends on the azalea. Mine do just fine outdoors all winter in 6a. I know one of them is a Hershey’s Red. Couldn’t tell ya off the top of my head what the others are though. I’d just say source trees locally from a landscape nursery if you want to find cold hardy varieties that will survive outside in your climate.

 

[Deep Sea Diver]

Yep, Hershey’s azaleas or a Bixby Dwarf or Janet Rhea would all be fine, but not sure it’s good across the pond. Certainly not a Satsuki without help. But a Kiusianum azalea would work.

The landscape azaleas might be touch and go unless these are a zone hardier to accommodate living in a pot.

The guy on BN who would know best what’s hardy and available in Europe is @Glaucus

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[Deep Sea Diver]

Will the species mentioned above cope with mild freezing temps for serveral days being in relatively shallow pots?

Most likely of the list will do fine mulched in the ground with good drainage for overwintering in your area. Get trees whose USDA cold hardiness rating is zone 7a or below. Here are a couple, you can go through the list above for others.

Kiusianum azalea
Japanese boxwood
Hinoki Cypress (Japanese)

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[Berra]

So i wont kill any trees due to lack of light, recieving only morgning sun? I forgot to mention at the neighbour has a tree that Will ve blocking the Sun for at least 30-45 min of the morning sun. So in that locantion there Will only be around 2 hours of direct morning sun.
Will the species mentioned above cope with mild freezing temps for serveral days being in relatively shallow pots?

I think one issue is harder to get short internodes, small leafs, without direct sun.

I bought around 15 or so different (seedlings/young plant) azaleas from @Glaucus, all of those that I put in the ground last summer survived last winter (we routinely have -20 in night time).

I use a heated green house to be able to keep more delicate species.

You can pm me if you want, in your country there is also a very active bonsai organisation: https://bonsai-danmark.dk/

 

[Glaucus]

I see @Deep Sea Diver is pushing azaleas hard. What a strange fellah! But, they will do fine with 2 hours of morning sun. Though I think they will prefer more. Also depends on how bright the shade is.
Something like a pine would prefer way more sun. So in that respect, azaleas are a much better pick. Azaleas should also be quite easily fully hardy. Ignoring late sudden frosts because potted plants will wake up earlier in spring and be more susceptible to late spring nightly frosts. Same goes for maples, I believe. But pines or taxus may not care about this, not sure. All those spring frosts that fruit tree people are worried about, those would affected potted azaleas, but usually to a lesser extend. Can be easily circumvented by a night in a sheltered spot. Or even spraying water on it.

I grow seedlings and cuttings of evergreen azaleas, especially satsuki. I have a tray of plants that are nice but I lost their labels. So they can go. They are young, but I never pruned them to be bonsai. They would require you to grow them out for at least a couple of more years before you put them in a bonsai pot and proudly put them on a bonsai display shelve. Otherwise, places like www.Minisatsuki.com and www.Bonsaiplaza.com are the to go to places to buy azalea bonsai inside the EU. Both also do other bonsai plants that are actual trees.

 

[Paradox]

Lol did someone say "azaleas"?

 

[Glaucus]

When will someone lay down the bonsai law hammer and finally teach the people here that 'azaleas are NOT bonsai'.

 

[Paradox]

When will someone lay down the bonsai law hammer and finally teach the people here that 'azaleas are NOT bonsai'.

No you...

I love my azalea  bonsai

I feel the same way about jade plants though....those are house plants to me

 

[Glaucus]

Denmark and other parts of (true) Scandinavia (Or Scotland) have a funny climate, though. Quite North in latitude, but right on a warm current coastline. Same with Pacific US and Canada. Look at a winter hardiness zone and to all the way North towards Alaska. Lots zone zone 7 and 8s. Then look at a Daily Light Integral map. You have these areas with a strange mixture of very mild winters, but quite low Daily Light Integrals. Trees may wants full sun in say Central Japan. Or Maryland/Virginia, or France/Northern Italy. You need to go all the way to the Mediterranean coast of France to get warm enough winters there to compare to Scotland or coastal Norway. If you then also have just 2 to 3 hours of morning sun. Even for Japanese maple trees, I think they require full sun, right? Just not full sun in a hot dry climate. If you are near Houston, Texas, right up on the coastline with enough rain, you wouldn't worry about just having 2 hours of morning sun in a shaded yard.