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As the title says, what happen with my water jasmine. I already tried to give it fertilizer (16-16-16 + tiny amount of iron micr via foliar spray.
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I’m certainly not an expert. I look at your photo and my first observation conclusion is the tree has not been getting enough sunlight. Pale green leaves will start to turn yellow eventually and begin falling off. Without a proper amount of sunlight the tree will fail.

The tree is quite weak now. I don’t know if new, and more, sunlight will make the leaves return to a full green color. The tree may just drop these leaves and begin to grow the new buds left behind. This would assume more sunlight to grow. Fertilizing a weak tree suffering from lack of sunlight may be more harm than help.

I’d water the tree as needed and begin a sunlight exposure treatment. That’s what my thoughts are.
 
I had a Jasmine tree in Vietnam. I would routinely pull off all the leaves at least once a year to force the new growth to develop. I had plenty of sunlight exposure so leaves were a nice deep green. A very fragrant tree.
 
I suggest you add your general location and growing zone number to your profile so help from members here can be better targeted.

And…..welcome to Bonsainut !
 
This is a good general article on Jasmine environment problems:
www.gardeningknowhow.com

Jasmine Leaves Dropping - What Causes Leaves To Fall Off Jasmine

Every year, gardeners ask: why my jasmine is drying and losing leaves? Not all jasmines need to be treated, but when they do, the information found in this article will help.
www.gardeningknowhow.com www.gardeningknowhow.com

Follow the Next links at the end of each page. A lot of good basic care is discussed. Your tree leaves have not dropped yet. However, without some care problems will continue.
 
Tieball said:
I’m certainly not an expert. I look at your photo and my first observation conclusion is the tree has not been getting enough sunlight. Pale green leaves will start to turn yellow eventually and begin falling off. Without a proper amount of sunlight the tree will fail.

The tree is quite weak now. I don’t know if new, and more, sunlight will make the leaves return to a full green color. The tree may just drop these leaves and begin to grow the new buds left behind. This would assume more sunlight to grow. Fertilizing a weak tree suffering from lack of sunlight may be more harm than help.

I’d water the tree as needed and begin a sunlight exposure treatment. That’s what my thoughts are.
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Okay, thanks for your diagnosis. I think the tree is getting about 4-5 hours of dirext sunlight daily especially in the evening and indirect light for the rest of the day (morning - noon). Right now I put the plant in the shade to avoid direct scorching heat in the midday.
Oh maybe this info will broaden the context. I have premna microphylla also placed in the same area, but this tree didn't have yellowing leaves problem. Heres the picture
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Okayy, i didn't know that. The thing is I stumble some site that say this tree maybe not getting enough iron. So what would you do to this I tree?

Oh I didn't know you can defoliage totally evergreen tree. I think you can only do that to deciduous tree.
 
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WookieBoogie said:
Okayy, i didn't know that. The thing is I stumble some site that say this tree maybe not getting enough iron. So what would you do to this I tree?

Oh I didn't know you can defoliage totally evergreen tree. I think you can only do that to deciduous tree.
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I don’t believe Jasmine is classified as an evergreen tree. It only seems evergreen because the leaves remain throughout the year. Indonesia….i can relate to the mid day heat. Vietnam is plenty hot between 11:00 and 3:00. I’m sure you are about the same. Mid day is sort of siesta nap time all over. However, about the tree, I just left the tree out in the sun. It survived very well.

What I would do is start to acclimate the tree to more sunlight. If mid day heat was a concern I’d set it aside where it would get filtered sunlight but not full shade. Filtered to me might be called dappled sunlight….with a nearby tree with some leaves providing intermittent sunlight with some cooling down effect.

Do you tend to overwater the Jasmine tree? The soil on my Jasmine was basically Vietnam earth soil which is loose and like a clay composition.
 
WookieBoogie said:
As the title says, what happen with my water jasmine. I already tried to give it fertilizer (16-16-16 + tiny amount of iron micr via foliar spray.
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Welcome Aboard to Bonsai Nut! You’ve come to a good place to ask questions on health of bonsai trees.

Wondering what media the plant is potted in and how often it is getting watered as it has chlorosis.

In this case, given the tree has good sunlight, it looks like:
- Compacted soil or likely water logged soil causing root issues See this link for information.
- Nutritional deficiency, media lacking mainly in iron and manganese and magnesium.
- Viruses can cause chlorosis. (However in this case it looks more like a nutritional deficiency.)

Here’s some ideas

1. Overwatering is often the most common cause of chlorosis for Water Jasmine. Be sure to let the tree dry out between waterings and consider unpotting the plant to check the media and roots. If wet use a better draining acidic media and slow the watering schedule. Bark and other organic material added to the mix will help.

2. Use a fertilizer with micronutrients that include the above nutrients. Some examples are Osmocote plus or nutricote, but there are many others on the market. Additionally a chelating agent

cheers
DSD sends
 
Response timing will vary…I sometimes forget about the day and time difference between us. My day is your night….and your day is my night.
 
Deep Sea Diver said:
Welcome Aboard to Bonsai Nut! You’ve come to a good place to ask questions on health of bonsai trees.

Wondering what media the plant is potted in and how often it is getting watered as it has chlorosis.

In this case, given the tree has good sunlight, it looks like:
- Compacted soil or likely water logged soil causing root issues See this link for information.
- Nutritional deficiency, media lacking mainly in iron and manganese and magnesium.
- Viruses can cause chlorosis. (However in this case it looks more like a nutritional deficiency.)

Here’s some ideas

1. Overwatering is often the most common cause of chlorosis for Water Jasmine. Be sure to let the tree dry out between waterings and consider unpotting the plant to check the media and roots. If wet use a better draining acidic media and slow the watering schedule. Bark and other organic material added to the mix will help.

2. Use a fertilizer with micronutrients that include the above nutrients. Some examples are Osmocote plus or nutricote, but there are many others on the market. Additionally a chelating agent

cheers
DSD sends
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Tieball said:
Response timing will vary…I sometimes forget about the day and time difference between us. My day is your night….and your day is my night.
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I see the main concern now is overwatering. I use common soil + compost + and unburned rice husk (i'm not sure about the ratio). For the watering frequency, the tree is watered every morning. I didn't check the soil consistency yet is it too compacted or not. Tomorrow morning I'll check that, or maybe change the soil altogether with better.
 
Mine has been chlorotic but never quite to that extent. A couple of doses of Miracid or Miracle Gro for acid loving plants took care of the problem.
 
Carol 83 said:
Mine has been chlorotic but never quite to that extent. A couple of doses of Miracid or Miracle Gro for acid loving plants took care of the problem.
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Okay, maybe later I will also check the PH of the soil maybe it's to alkaline. Do you ever use elemental sulphur to acidify the soil?
 
WookieBoogie said:
Okay, maybe later I will also check the PH of the soil maybe it's to alkaline. Do you ever use elemental sulphur to acidify the soil?
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Yes elemental sulfur is added on occasion. But check the pH first. If decent, check the media.

Interested to know results. Based upon the information accessible:
Unburned Rice hulls = neutral
Compost = between pH 6-8
Soil - mostly acid due to precipitation and volcanic decomposition

cheers
DSD sends
 
Looks much better!

Interested. Does this fertilizer also contain other micronutrients?

cheers
DSD sends
 
WookieBoogie said:
Here's a little update, so the first photo taken on 24 november, I give it 16-16-16 + Fe 13% on 28 november, and now this is the condition of the plant on 3 december. I think it is a big improvement for the leaves' color although theres still some yellow leaves.View attachment 519643
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Well done! Mighty fine development.
 
Deep Sea Diver said:
Looks much better!

Interested. Does this fertilizer also contain other micronutrients?

cheers
DSD sends
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I'm not really sure since I cannot find the details of the nutrient. But the packaging says MerokeMIKRO® Fe-EDTA (C10H12FeN2NaO8).
Tieball said:
Well done! Mighty fine development.
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queenofsheba52 said:
Good job, the tree looks lots better!
Welcome! I am so glad you found this great bonsai site.
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Thanks! Now the realy problem is approaching, I never style any tree, hhahaha dou you guys have any suggestion or good reading material how to style this?
 
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