Wire: how much bite?

[Jzack605]

I wired and defoliated my mume in June. It’s getting some significant bite and I’m curious if I can allow it and see a recovery.

 

[Zach Smith]

Get that wire off now, Dude!

 

[Dav4]

Remove the wire before it gets worse. It won't be noticeable in a few years, particularly after the bark starts to mature.

 

[Jzack605]

It’s off! Don’t know why I thought I had read you can push it a little bit. The branch surprisingly held shape but I put in a guy with fishing line to hold it longer

 

[Clicio]

I did the same with my Prunus Mume last season.
I regret it.
It was an important new branch in a strategic position and it is ruined.

 

[sorce]

I highly appreciate the efforts, but I think you could have gotten away safer using the knicker elastic and chewing Gum @Woocash was talking about and achieved the same effect without the bite.

Then I question the effect? It seems to have introduced movement quite like the dreaded "guy wire only" rainbow arching thing.

But then I go right back into commending the effort.

I just don't understand it.
But I also am very anti wiring anything but what will be kept, and I like clip and grow Better. So there's that.

I would consider what they call "cage wiring". Looser. Also aluminum, since its larger and will bite less. Or coated wire, or any other means to make movement without direct copper.

Sorce

 

[JoeR]

Funny, yesterday I realized the wire cut into my ume too. Taking it off was the right choice, they can add girth quickly almost in spurts. Once its bitten in that far its more than set.

I have also found with ume that you can actually snap a young branch gently, put cut paste or similar around the break point, and it will heal given that it isn't allowed to move and break after it starts healing. This creates more abrupt movement that I think is well suited for the species.

 

[Dav4]

Fwiw, for a rugged and gnarly barked tree like an Ume, subtle irregularities in the texture of the branches are ok and might even enhance the image as the branching matures. Most of the branches on my ume have had some wire bite in during development... https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/another-ume.32214/... you can see the mild scarring on more then a few of the pictures. It's barely noticeable after one year, even though the bark is still juvenile

 

[Adair M]

Wire scars are just a part of the hobby. Sure, try to minimize them, but must of the time they’ll heal and not be noticeable.

Just like you can see the brush strokes on an oil painting.

 

[Zach Smith]

As summer ends and fall gets closer, watch for seemingly overnight swelling of branches. You'll end up removing a lot of wire, put on the tree in summer or even earlier, in a hurry.

 

[Jzack605]

I highly appreciate the efforts, but I think you could have gotten away safer using the knicker elastic and chewing Gum @Woocash was talking about and achieved the same effect without the bite.

Then I question the effect? It seems to have introduced movement quite like the dreaded "guy wire only" rainbow arching thing.

But then I go right back into commending the effort.

I just don't understand it.
But I also am very anti wiring anything but what will be kept, and I like clip and grow Better. So there's that.

I would consider what they call "cage wiring". Looser. Also aluminum, since its larger and will bite less. Or coated wire, or any other means to make movement without direct copper.

Sorce

There is a pendulous Ume I am taking inspiration from. Hence the rainbows, although would like to introduce more movement I am contemplating cutting those branches back next year so they are not so long and rainbow-esque