When should adventitious buds do something?

[Mudroot]

It seems like my Scots has new adventitious buds (although very small) and I was wondering what time of year they should begin to push out something green.

The original (candle) new shoots came about March or so and the ones I am curious about are ones I am trying to force back growth on.
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[Harunobu]

Is it species or a horticulture dwarf cultivar? Maybe a picture?

From the sound of it, if it gets enough light, it could set up a bud in autumn and push a candle from that.

If not, auxin likely inhibit it's growth.

 

[Vance Wood]

Scots Pines are single flush trees. Did you cut out the original flush of growth, you did not make that clear? However even if you did cut out the original flush of growth doing it this early you might get some of adventitious growth to pop. However if it does; it probably will not do so until late July or early August but the growth is going to be weak. The idea behind candle/shoot removal is to stimulate a multitude of new buds that will open evenly the following spring.

 

[Mudroot]

Not sure if right approach, but have been fertilizing a bit heavier than last year.
Kinda light blue Miracle Grow (1 scoop in 2 gal water) about every 2-3 weeks.

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Also trying to get soil to stay a bit drier.
It's in sun for morning then a couple hours shade midday and then s un again in afternoon.

Guess I'll find out as time goes on.

 

[0soyoung]

Not sure if right approach, but have been fertilizing a bit heavier than last year.
Kinda light blue Miracle Grow (1 scoop in 2 gal water) about every 2-3 weeks.

At least in part it is the right approach. Good nitrogen nutrition is essential to budding. That is why pines are fertilized heavily after new growth is hardened. Lots of nitrogen also leads to long internodes. That is why we do (and/or you should) restrict nitrogen in the spring when candles are extending.

It's in sun for morning then a couple hours shade midday and then s un again in afternoon.

If this is just how it is where you keep it, it is okay, but there is no need to shade any pine.

 

[Mudroot]

Think I'm going too light on the fert?

 

[0soyoung]

Think I'm going too light on the fert?

If you are getting adequate budding, what you are doing is okay.

On the other hand, if you are using a purely inorganic medium, it is 'impossible' to get fert burn. Certainly you can apply multiples of the recommended application without trouble (as Walter Pall recommends) from the time of hardened new growth to winter (not as much uptake occurs during winter).

 

[Paulpash]

The key to producing viable back budding on scots pines is vigourous candle extension, let the candle harden off and recoup energy then cut back to 2 - 3 pairs of needles. This is around mid June where I am. Lots of energy transfer between needles and root and then interrupt the auxin flow through pruning. Lots of nitrogen throughout as you're not bothered about long internodes on the candles - they'll be cut back anyways!

 

[Vance Wood]

The key to producing viable back budding on scots pines is vigourous candle extension, let the candle harden off and recoup energy then cut back to 2 - 3 pairs of needles. This is around mid June where I am. Lots of energy transfer between needles and root and then interrupt the auxin flow through pruning. Lots of nitrogen throughout as you're not bothered about long internodes on the candles - they'll be cut back anyways!

You can actually totally remove the new shoots all the way back to about 1mm above where the new growth started this spring. You are looking to produce a bunch-O-buds for next spring.