Wassup tree nerds

[Yugen]

Hey y'all,

This is my first post here, and already I have a sense that this is going to be a great place for information and art= win win!

My first question: whether or not to use cut paste for pines. I used cut paste (image attached) on my first Scots pine bonsai because...well I heard you're supposed to. It was a rather large branch cut and I guess it did it's job even though I had sap bleed through it for a few months. Now, a year into the art, I'm on the fence, as I see how the natural flow of sap acts as the trees own bandaid. What do y'all think about using cut paste on pines?

Second question: how does one remove said cut paste? Does it sluff off as bark grows in underneath it? Do you hack at it? Melt it?

Thanks for being an awesome community, I'll try to add a pic of the paste on the tree when I get home

 

[penumbra]

Yes, great for pines. It will come off as tree grows.

 

[Nybonsai12]

I use cut paste. Stuff in the tub with the green top. It starts to dry out over time and will break and crack as callus forms underneath.

 

[Yugen]

Yes, great for pines. It will come off as tree grows.

have you had any problems when not using paste?

 

[Yugen]

have you had any problems when not using paste?

 

[penumbra]

have you had any problems when not using paste?

Not really but I like to stop the messy sap flow and resultant white stains.

 

[Yugen]

Not really but I like to stop the messy sap flow and resultant white stains.

Generally how long does the cut paste stay on for before it naturally comes off?

 

[penumbra]

You seem to be awfully concerned with the paste. It comes off in a season. If applied well it is much less glaring than a fresh cut. My suggestion is to do it either way you like and learn from the experience. You are beating this thread to death over a very incidental issue.

 

[Potawatomi13]

All above true. Use if not wanting pitchy fingers and messy trees.

 

[sorce]

very incidental

Unless of course he has a beloved pet that may eat the paste and die.

Or perhaps it's even a human that this may happen to.

Yesterday, in response to a report we received about disrespecting people with disabilities, I was thinking about how changing the context of any situation will have someone's view different.

I can make up a context where anyone would feed the disabled to the wolves.

I don't think people should push their beliefs on people for that reason. So, I don't care about the above statement.

Accept for, once we understand the possible context of the situation, it becomes a false statement.

Sorce

 

[Lazylightningny]

I use the stuff in the tube for lighter colored trunks and the stuff in the tub for darker colored trunks, just for esthetic reasons. But yeah, it's good to use cut paste. I want to say they contain antimicrobials, but don't quote me on that.

 

[Yugen]

You seem to be awfully concerned with the paste. It comes off in a season. If applied well it is much less glaring than a fresh cut. My suggestion is to do it either way you like and learn from the experience. You are beating this thread to death over a very incidental issue.

Sorry you feel that way my cut paste application has shown no signs of budging so far and it looks super ugly, detracting from the tree. Although a flat cut may have been worse. Ultimately I should have made a jin

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

I use the stuff in the tube for lighter colored trunks and the stuff in the tub for darker colored trunks, just for esthetic reasons. But yeah, it's good to use cut paste. I want to say they contain antimicrobials, but don't quote me on that.

Thanks to @River's Edge I tried some cut paste. It does oxidize my copper wires, so I think it's either some chlorine or some other oxidizer in there. But I'm using the run of the mill stuff, not the special bonsai paste.

 

[River's Edge]

Hey y'all,

This is my first post here, and already I have a sense that this is going to be a great place for information and art= win win!

My first question: whether or not to use cut paste for pines. I used cut paste (image attached) on my first Scots pine bonsai because...well I heard you're supposed to. It was a rather large branch cut and I guess it did it's job even though I had sap bleed through it for a few months. Now, a year into the art, I'm on the fence, as I see how the natural flow of sap acts as the trees own bandaid. What do y'all think about using cut paste on pines?

Second question: how does one remove said cut paste? Does it sluff off as bark grows in underneath it? Do you hack at it? Melt it?

Thanks for being an awesome community, I'll try to add a pic of the paste on the tree when I get home

The product you are showing is a sealant, not cut paste. Cut paste is a solid plastercine like product. It comes in a solid grey form. You work it with your fingers to obtain a softer more malleable form before applying to the cut! Depending on the type of liquid sealant it may remain on the tree and be covered over by callus.

 

[Ruben Bouwmeester]

Waasssaf, tree nurd. Have fun! Sylvestris when healthy don't need cut paste.

 

[Yugen]

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Waasssaf, tree nurd. Have fun! Sylvestris when healthy don't need cut paste.

I guess I was incorrectly using cut sealant and not paste. But why do you say that a healthy sylvestris doesnt need the paste? I would think the healthier the more... flow. Sap flow that is...

 

[tmjudd1]

I use cheap hvac 'duct' sealant with a bit of Neem Oil rubbed into it. It is black, adheres well and doesn't stand out too bad.

 

[Yugen]

I use cheap hvac 'duct' sealant with a bit of Neem Oil rubbed into it. It is black, adheres well and doesn't stand out too bad.

And this comes off over time or what? What's the neem oil used for?

 

[tmjudd1]

Yep, it'll peel off, easily, whenever you want it off. The Neem Oil keeps the wound clean and free from disease and pests that may want to attack the wound before it heals over.