Tree identification: hard mode

[JackHammer]

I have a number of trees growing on my property but I have no idea what they are. Is anyone able to tell by the bark? These are in North East Ohio. I chopped most of them 2 seasons ago and cut them back again today.

Beech? Hornbeam? I don't think they are elm. Certainly not oak or maple.

 

[BrightsideB]

Post photo’s of the buds at the end of the branches. That is also very useful in a winter ID.

Last one maybe a cherry. 3rd from last looks like sweet gum.

 

[JackHammer]

Post photo’s of the buds at the end of the branches. That is also very useful in a winter ID.

Last one maybe a cherry. 3rd from last looks like sweet gum.

Good advice. Yes, that is a cherry.
I know about the star leaves so I don't think it is a sweetgum, I would have remembered those. This might be the leaf..

 

[19Mateo83]

Could be ash

 

[JackHammer]

Could be ash

This is very possible. All of the adult ash trees are dead from the bore but I don't really know about the juvenile trees.

 

[19Mateo83]

The little ones don’t seem to be hit as hard as the big ones.

 

[Arie Botanie]

I know this is from a couple of months back but I stumbled on this thread by accident. I actually think the last one is Prunus Padus. Bird Cherry. If you break or scratch a twig and you can smell the scent of roasted almond then you're certain.

 

[doc spring _work]

Figured I ought to ask for assistance on a pre-established ID thread instead of adding to the massive amount of them here....

Can anyone assist in identifying this tree? I tried to image search for id without success... It appears to have three leaves per bud and a Droopy section that holds seeds(like a golden chain but the seeds don't look the same.)

There are a ton of seedlings of this particular species and I'm tempted to start a clump style from them however I want to research the tree first!

Any help is appreciated
Edit- poor memory on description

 

[Empty Mountain]

Figured I ought to ask for assistance on a pre-established ID thread instead of adding to the massive amount of them here....

Looks like Acer negundo to me.

 

[Jrmcmich]

Figured I ought to ask for assistance on a pre-established ID thread instead of adding to the massive amount of them here....

Can anyone assist in identifying this tree? I tried to image search for id without success... It appears to have three leaves per bud and a Droopy section that holds seeds(like a golden chain but the seeds don't look the same.)

There are a ton of seedlings of this particular species and I'm tempted to start a clump style from them however I want to research the tree first!

Any help is appreciated
Edit- poor memory on description

Boxelder maple? I have Couple of these collected which I wasnt Sure what it was when I marked It. If so probably not ideal tree. Wish I had Known before collecting mine.

 

[Jrmcmich]

Looks like Acer negundo to me.

Can not remember the actual botanical names but agree.

 

[MaciekA]

Figured I ought to ask for assistance on a pre-established ID thread instead of adding to the massive amount of them here....

Can anyone assist in identifying this tree? I tried to image search for id without success... It appears to have three leaves per bud and a Droopy section that holds seeds(like a golden chain but the seeds don't look the same.)

There are a ton of seedlings of this particular species and I'm tempted to start a clump style from them however I want to research the tree first!

Any help is appreciated
Edit- poor memory on description

If this is acer negundo then also consider scanning around on the ground below the tree. In the leaf litter below you might find remnants of the fruit (seed pods), which is distinctly maple-like. Cool species.

 

[penumbra]

I think it is just about the worst acer for a bonsai ......... or a yard specimen. Brittle and weak wooded and spreads like poison ivy. To each his own, but I regard it as a trash tree.

 

[doc spring _work]

I think it is just about the worst acer for a bonsai ......... or a yard specimen. Brittle and weak wooded and spreads like poison ivy. To each his own, but I regard it as a trash tree.

Well that's great to know... Yeah I was considering some willow cuttings for a clump when I ran into it.. not sure if it is an Acer negundo... Didn't see any maple seedlings anywhere.. and the long golden bushy bits in the photo seem to be the seeds but I certainly could be wrong.... Either way there are probably 100 better seedlings to find rather then risk dedication to a trashy plant

 

[Empty Mountain]

and the long golden bushy bits in the photo seem to be the seeds but I certainly could be wrong

Those are the flowers.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Willow, is easier to work with than boxelder, Acer negundo,. and generally, willow, genus Salix, is considered less than ideal. Though I had some success with Salix nigra, black willow.

 

[doc spring _work]

Willow, is easier to work with than boxelder, Acer negundo,. and generally, willow, genus Salix, is considered less than ideal. Though I had some success with Salix nigra, black willow.

I see... Yeah Im far from eager to grow willow.. they drive me nuts in the environment however I know I can go grab a few sticks and get them to root... I truly just crave plant whips and no one sells them in my area meaning collecting is the best option for testing new techniques.... Any plant I should actively look for? (Working at a nursery I might get lucky here or there)

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

I see... Yeah Im far from eager to grow willow.. they drive me nuts in the environment however I know I can go grab a few sticks and get them to root... I truly just crave plant whips and no one sells them in my area meaning collecting is the best option for testing new techniques.... Any plant I should actively look for? (Working at a nursery I might get lucky here or there)

Since you work at a nursery, where is no limit to what you should look for. If you can provide windbreak winder protection you should look into Japanese maples, because zone 6a is not wildly out of the range for Japanese maples, some cultivars are noted for being more winter hardy than others. Investigate and try them.

I love Celtis, the hackberries, either the common (C occidentalis) or sugarberry (Celtis laevagatis) with the common being more winter hardy.

Amur maple of course - Acer ginnala, absolutely famous for winter hardiness, leaves reduce nicely, yellow to red autumn color and decent as bonsai.

Really, just about any species. Heck, you could have a fun day with a gallon size cotoneaster and have a passible shohin in one day.

Have fun

 

[doc spring _work]

Since you work at a nursery, where is no limit to what you should look for. If you can provide windbreak winder protection you should look into Japanese maples, because zone 6a is not wildly out of the range for Japanese maples, some cultivars are noted for being more winter hardy than others. Investigate and try them.

I love Celtis, the hackberries, either the common (C occidentalis) or sugarberry (Celtis laevagatis) with the common being more winter hardy.

Amur maple of course - Acer ginnala, absolutely famous for winter hardiness, leaves reduce nicely, yellow to red autumn color and decent as bonsai.

Really, just about any species. Heck, you could have a fun day with a gallon size cotoneaster and have a passible shohin in one day.

Have fun

Annnddd I just noticed my info is off! I'm zone 5..

Tho we do we Japanese maples and they do fine up here with care... I cant afford those beautiful trees, I'll certainly keep an eye out for volunteers but I think they are grafted so id have to pray for a seedling to somehow make its way into the pots!

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

Annnddd I just noticed my info is off! I'm zone 5..

Tho we do we Japanese maples and they do fine up here with care... I cant afford those beautiful trees, I'll certainly keep an eye out for volunteers but I think they are grafted so id have to pray for a seedling to somehow make its way into the pots!

You are in Ogden, Utah, I suggest taking a walk in the mountains. Get out of town, away from the concrete. Walk up into the "hills". You will find seed, or maybe seedlings, and can work with these for free, and they will be perfectly adapted to your climate.

You can get permission to collect on private land, if you take the time to find the owners. State forests and National forests are land set aside for eventual commercial use, and permits can be obtained to collect trees in these areas. Similar with BLM properties. Parks and Wildlife Preserves will never issue collecting permits.

Railroad right of ways and power line right of ways are technically off limits for collecting, but depending on where they are located tend to be loosely enforced. A right of way through a Nature Preserve would definitely be off limits, a right of way through BLM territory might receive no attention.

Hike around, locate possible collecting locations, Then investigate. And in general, most places, seed from the wild is essentially fair game. Though definitely read all posted signs and park rules.

Even a neighbor's back yard can have "weed species" sprouting in their flower beds. Get friendly with your neighbors. Look over their garden fences. Many desert shrubs have good potential as bonsai due to their tolerance of short episodes of drought.