Teeny Mugo - This is NOT a Contest Tree

Hyn Patty

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All right, here goes. While I dabbled in bonsai about 25 years ago, I barely got a collection going before I lost it in a nasty hail storm. Haven't really tried to be serious about bonsai since, but would really like to get back to trying. I've forgotten a lot of what I had learned so I suppose I'm really starting over. Just as well so I can learn better habits. So I went out and picked up three plants at my local Pikes a couple of days ago - and here's the first one. I should have gotten a photo of it before I started, drat. The other two are junipers and I can post them elsewhere when I have time to work on them.

This is Mugo pine 'Teeny' which grows around 1" per year (sometimes a little more) and up to about 10 to 12 inches in mature height. It is currently 4 inches tall and about 6 inches wide. I selected this one because it had a nice forked trunk and many clean, fairly well balanced branches. I did prune off a couple of branches but not much. I haven't wired anything in many years (except for a few adeniums recently) and I'm way out of practice. I know I should be using copper wire but as we are in the process of relocation from one house to another, everything is in storage, so I picked up some aluminum wire for now.

Mugo Teeny Wiring.jpg

I want to accentuate the twin trunk and open the tree up by using the wiring to spread and lower branches. On one side I have positioned the apex as the highest point and centered it over the angled trunk, and on the other side I have tugged everything over to lower it into an almost semi-cascade feel. Being a mountain tree, I hope it'll be happy at our new mountain cabin we are relocating to later this spring at 4,000 feet elevation in NC. I'd like to get hold of some thin copper wire to help turn some of the tips more upwards on the lower branches. I've begun to pinch back some of the candles, some of them out (if there were three or more in a single tip) and some of them about 2/3rds to try and encourage short, dense needles. I've never done this pinching before on an evergreen so advice welcome.

Mugo Pine Teeny Wiring-2.jpg

Besides that, my goals are to learn to wire better and encourage back buds. I have always loved mugo pines but I never really got a chance to do one as a bonsai. I need to learn a lot about them and I have been directed to Vance Wood's posts collected in this tutorial: https://www.bonsainut.com/resources/compiled-vance-wood-on-mugo-pines.23/

Mugo Pine Teeny Wiring-3.jpg

Long term I'd like to eventually mount this small mugo on a rock so the lowest branches won't be close to the pot and soil. I'm not sure that I will get that far in only four years. According to Vance's posts I should keep it in the larger pot for a while to thicken up the trunk and mature the bark so that's what I will do first. Over time I want one side to get higher and keep the other lower. Thicken the trunk and maybe scar some of the bark, stripping a few branches for jin. But I won't try any of that for a while.

I did post these photos in a mugo pine thread so I hope that's all right.
 
I like the aerial shot, but I think you could bend the branches a little more, so it looks more gnarled. Kinda like this.
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If the branches won't bend, don't force them. If you have to, remove the wire and re-wire the whole thing.

I like the overall look of your Mugo, and I hope to see it improve with age.
 
I agree entirely! But I was warned that wiring it in spring may slip the bark. So I want to go a little slow and carefully. I plan to rewire it in autumn with copper and at that time, after letting it go a bit dry and less turgid, then I hope to get more bends. I actually moved everything quite a bit as it was a small round, tight ball of branches when I picked it up. Being so small (only four inches tall) I am worried about doing too much too fast and hurting the tree. I am definitely seeking advice and appreciate the feedback. The one you posted does have a nice elegance - what is it?
 
I wired two branches on a juniper I got today, and realized, I really don’t know jack shit about wiring, design, or seeing the forest through the tree.
It’s like I did a bunch of research, set up a good shop per say, and then started breaking branches...after trying to see the trees potential around around and sideways, I did not turn it upside down..perhaps I should have stopped for a spell.
your mugo looks like it could use a serious trim or a mugo-vision...
 
Welcome to Crazy @Hyn Patty !

I've been looking for one of those lil guys in the few far places I see them here...

Nice!

Proud you joined the contest.


really don’t know jack shit about wiring

No worries Jim! I been quite happy with my wiring..

But....

Now that my trees actually live...they actually grow...
And well bloody hell....
You know what happens then!

Ruined Fucking trees!

So...yeah...turns out the goose and the gander don't even know each other!
Lol!

Sorce
 
All right, here goes. While I dabbled in bonsai about 25 years ago, I barely got a collection going before I lost it in a nasty hail storm. Haven't really tried to be serious about bonsai since, but would really like to get back to trying. I've forgotten a lot of what I had learned so I suppose I'm really starting over. Just as well so I can learn better habits. So I went out and picked up three plants at my local Pikes a couple of days ago - and here's the first one. I should have gotten a photo of it before I started, drat. The other two are junipers and I can post them elsewhere when I have time to work on them.

This is Mugo pine 'Teeny' which grows around 1" per year (sometimes a little more) and up to about 10 to 12 inches in mature height. It is currently 4 inches tall and about 6 inches wide. I selected this one because it had a nice forked trunk and many clean, fairly well balanced branches. I did prune off a couple of branches but not much. I haven't wired anything in many years (except for a few adeniums recently) and I'm way out of practice. I know I should be using copper wire but as we are in the process of relocation from one house to another, everything is in storage, so I picked up some aluminum wire for now.

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I want to accentuate the twin trunk and open the tree up by using the wiring to spread and lower branches. On one side I have positioned the apex as the highest point and centered it over the angled trunk, and on the other side I have tugged everything over to lower it into an almost semi-cascade feel. Being a mountain tree, I hope it'll be happy at our new mountain cabin we are relocating to later this spring at 4,000 feet elevation in NC. I'd like to get hold of some thin copper wire to help turn some of the tips more upwards on the lower branches. I've begun to pinch back some of the candles, some of them out (if there were three or more in a single tip) and some of them about 2/3rds to try and encourage short, dense needles. I've never done this pinching before on an evergreen so advice welcome.

View attachment 183756

Besides that, my goals are to learn to wire better and encourage back buds. I have always loved mugo pines but I never really got a chance to do one as a bonsai. I need to learn a lot about them and I have been directed to Vance Wood's posts collected in this tutorial: https://www.bonsainut.com/resources/compiled-vance-wood-on-mugo-pines.23/

View attachment 183760

Long term I'd like to eventually mount this small mugo on a rock so the lowest branches won't be close to the pot and soil. I'm not sure that I will get that far in only four years. According to Vance's posts I should keep it in the larger pot for a while to thicken up the trunk and mature the bark so that's what I will do first. Over time I want one side to get higher and keep the other lower. Thicken the trunk and maybe scar some of the bark, stripping a few branches for jin. But I won't try any of that for a while.

I did post these photos in a mugo pine thread so I hope that's all right.

I had one of those too. They grow so slow and the branching on mine was so rigid I finally just gave it to my wife to plant with her other dwarf conifers. Tomorrow we are visiting our favorite conifer nursery and I plan to now pick up a larger and less compact mugho to work with.
 
I will be doing /some/ trimming but I am still reading and re-reading Vance Wood's posts and thinking about it. I don't want to cut anything back hard that I may regret. If several others also advice cutting it back, I will, but otherwise I'd feel better if I can see some back buds first. This one is far too slow growing to do anything drastic without knowing for certain what I am doing with it. I appreciate the various feedback and I can be patient with it - I'm not in a hurry. And as you say, Cofga, if it doesn't work out to my liking I can always go plant it in a rock garden. Btw, I see you are in the Asheville, NC, Cofga? I'm moving up there myself so if you are a member of the Blue Ridge Bonsai Society, I will probably be meeting you in person within a couple more months as we complete our relocation.

Thank you for the encouragement, Sorce. I have no idea how good a choice 'Teeny' is but I thought it cute and worth a try. Learn as we go. And TN_Jim - that's why we are here! Either to learn how to do this all better, or to help others to do so. Everything takes practice, research, and asking questions. I have been growing a lot of plants over more than 40 years now and I've certainly learned from making a lot of mistakes along the way.
 
Yes, I am a member so we will welcome you with open arms. Do you know where you are moving to in the area? I actually am between Asheville and Weaverville on the north side.
 
Yes, we are about to close on a property south of Asheville that backs up against the Shining Rock Wilderness. It will be a bit of a haul for me to get to the Arboretum, or to Asheville itself, but it will be worth the drive.
 
Yes, we are about to close on a property south of Asheville that backs up against the Shining Rock Wilderness. It will be a bit of a haul for me to get to the Arboretum, or to Asheville itself, but it will be worth the drive.
Oooh, does that put you on the Canton side of the mountain? When the wind is blowing from the west real strong we get an occasional whif of the fumes from the paper mill even as far east as we are. In south Asheville down by the outlet mall and in Enka/Candler on the west side you can smell them regularly. They call it the smell of money, enjoy!
 
The one you posted does have a nice elegance - what is it?

It's a Brazilian Rain Tree, not mine. it belongs to a blogger. Usually you'll see them with very dense foliage, but sometimes you'll need to defoliate.
(Don't defoliate any trees unless you know that the tree can survive it, unfortunately pines cannot)
 
Oooh, does that put you on the Canton side of the mountain? When the wind is blowing from the west real strong we get an occasional whif of the fumes from the paper mill even as far east as we are. In south Asheville down by the outlet mall and in Enka/Candler on the west side you can smell them regularly. They call it the smell of money, enjoy!

Haha, no... I mean like the Tuckasegee area, but a bit east of that. Not too far south of Sylva, a bit north of Cashiers. Way out in the boonies and high up in the mountains like we like it. Long drive to Asheville but I'm used to being a fair drive away from Atlanta already so it's no different in that respect. Really gorgeous.

Thank you all for the links and tips and yes, I wasn't about to defoliate this little thing. I am not going to do anything else to the tree right away probably until we complete our move in May. I will, as per Vance Wood's advice, look for a suitable pond basket to transplant it into this summer.
 
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Small update. The Mugo 'Teeny' is growing very well. Some of the wire is already getting snug so I'm keeping a close eye on it and may need to remove it by mid summer or rewire. I also didn't pinch the candles right so Vance Wood said that I should remove the longer new growth in late June to promote back budding. So that's my plan for now. I did feed it back in early May or late April and that one feeding may have been too much - that or all this rain we have been getting every day. As I get the hang of handling a mugo I hope that I'll be able to keep the needle size smaller and shorten up the branches. I wish now I hadn't removed any of the inner needles as it'll make it harder to get buds along those sections - newbie mistake.

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I agree entirely! But I was warned that wiring it in spring may slip the bark. So I want to go a little slow and carefully. I plan to rewire it in autumn with copper and at that time, after letting it go a bit dry and less turgid, then I hope to get more bends. I actually moved everything quite a bit as it was a small round, tight ball of branches when I picked it up. Being so small (only four inches tall) I am worried about doing too much too fast and hurting the tree. I am definitely seeking advice and appreciate the feedback. The one you posted does have a nice elegance - what is it?
I can account for damaging the bark first hand. I was basically just moving a guy wire on my Mugo this Spring and it was very easy to damage the young bark.
 
Haha, no... I mean like the Tuckasegee area, but a bit east of that. Not too far south of Sylva, a bit north of Cashiers. Way out in the boonies and high up in the mountains like we like it. Long drive to Asheville but I'm used to being a fair drive away from Atlanta already so it's no different in that respect. Really gorgeous.

Thank you all for the links and tips and yes, I wasn't about to defoliate this little thing. I am not going to do anything else to the tree right away probably until we complete our move in May. I will, as per Vance Wood's advice, look for a suitable pond basket to transplant it into this summer.

You all are making me jealous. That area of the country is one of my favorites. I do get to spend a week or two in Asheville each summer so I am looking forward to that next month.
 
You all are making me jealous. That area of the country is one of my favorites. I do get to spend a week or two in Asheville each summer so I am looking forward to that next month.
You wouldn't want to be in Asheville right now. SO much flooding. We have had heavy rain almost every day for the past three weeks! Thankfully no problems up here on our mountain though some areas have had rock falls that have closed the roads briefly. North Georgia (where I just moved up from) and East TN have also been getting hit hard.
 
I just read that on the news. One of my favorite trails is at Warren Wilson College. I am worried that it is washed out.
We went to Cashiers 2 summers ago. It is really beautiful.
 
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