Saying hello

Ken Peluso

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Been reading a lot here for a few weeks but wanted to say hey. I was given a Serissa as a gift a few weeks ago by a friend who knew I've been debating getting into the hobby.

Right now I've got it indoors and it seems to be doing pretty well under an led array (20 white, 4 violet, 2 red, 2 green, & 23 blue). Pretty good spectrum range and PAR distribution. Blues are on a separate control and I've got them dialed back. The fixture was made for the marine reef hobby (I used to propagate coral).

Open to thoughts, comments, etc. it's a learning experience for me.
 
Welcome to the forum!
Don't u guys think this tree is a little bit on the thin side for it's height?
 
Open to thoughts, comments, etc. it's a learning experience for me.

Welcome to Crazy! We can help you out a LOT better if you add your location to your profile so it shows similar to mine in the avatar. Many here have Serissa a in many different climates and we all handle them a little different to get good results ;)

Grimmy
 
Hi there and welcome;

Don't u guys think this tree is a little bit on the thin side for it's height?

A little? :)

We can help you out a LOT better if you add your location to your profile

Right on! :)

@Ken Peluso unless you and your tree live up the Arctic circle (which doesn't seem to be the case on your pictures) it should be outside by now.

Otherwise some really general info on the serissa: they are moody and do not like to be moved around. So once you will have find a spot it seems to like avoid to move it.
If it doesn't like something it will let you know immediately (with its leaves that will look like pruney and facing downward, they might also turn yellow, crispy and fall down). Not a real issue, serissa does that all the time, but a red flag to indicate that something changed and your tree isn't impressed at all.
They are supposed to love full sun but mine actually not so much. It likes to have full sun in the morning or evening but doesn't like that in the hottest times of the day. So I placed it in my yard accordingly.

Nice deck btw! :)
 
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Thanks for the info everyone. I've since acquired another serissa of a similar size. The same friend who gave me this one. He realized he wasn't prepared for caring for a tree like this, and he has no outdoors space as he lives in the city.

It wasn't too happy, shriveled flowers and yellowing leaves. I gave it a good watering and put it on my deck, slowly exposing it to full sun and found a spot where it gets really good light but after the hottest part of the day as Alain mentioned. It seems to be doin better as it is all green now and just looks healthier.

While they acclimate a bit more I'm reading/watching videos on how to thicken them up. Thanks again for the the comments, always welcome more.
 
Following up here on these two trees, specifically regarding the (lack of) trunk size. Understanding a bit more now than i did a month ago, would you re-pot/slip pot them into more of a nursery pot for a while to allow them to really grow instead of being constrained to the bonsai-style pots they are in now?
 
Following up here on these two trees, specifically regarding the (lack of) trunk size. Understanding a bit more now than i did a month ago, would you re-pot/slip pot them into more of a nursery pot for a while to allow them to really grow instead of being constrained to the bonsai-style pots they are in now?

I can tell you yes, but not when :eek: So, I am going to call in a great friend of mine who has done it with great success @armetisius . His experience growing them is far superior to mine as far as that aspect goes so maybe he will pipe in with some magic and more detailed information ;)

Grimmy
 
Where the hell has Arme been?

Sorce
 
Good Lord; turn your head for ten days and people just start talking about you and
everything. Guess that is what comes from being an instigating-shyte stirring-arse.

I can tell you yes, but not when :eek: So, I am going to call in a great friend of mine who has done it with great success @armetisius . His experience growing them is far superior to mine as far as that aspect goes so maybe he will pipe in with some magic and more detailed information ;) Grimmy
Grimmy you could not have timed this better I guess. Just closed that sheet set and the
building is off to the printers. Whew! Such a simple building nearly whipped my a$$
with its "vagueness".

Where the hell has Arme been? Sorce
Up until about an hour or so ago I have been designing & drawing a "Wedding Chapel Barn"
for the last couple of weeks. Could have saved the man a couple grand of costs if he had just
agreed to do it my way to begin with. 3 iterations to come back to almost the exact drawings
I took to the initial presentation. After 18+ years of banquets I am the one you want laying out
your facilities. Oh well; his way my check is fuller. Even got to buy me some of them there bone zeye
pots by mail. [Even if they had to be bought at 2AM.] This client is so country even his hayseed
has an accent. So long as his check doesn't bounce he can speak Flemish for all I care.

To the OP:
Yes they are finicky biotches. They can and will shed their leaves faster than a three dollar crack
whore can strip. BUT get them outside; let them get as much Sun as they can until ten in the AM.
After 10, you want them in highly dappled cool shade. They love the Sun but cannot stand the heat.
Kind of like a fuchsia. Snatch that out of the pot and put it in a big pot. Let it grow and feed it weekly.
Let it ride out all season & winter as is and just as it starts to kick up in the Spring cut the hell out
of it. Following that cut back, cut the bottom half or so of the root ball off. I use a butcher's knife.
Reset it in fresh soil in the same big pot. I use a primarily organic nursery mix that has awesome
drainage but tends to hold its moisture for a couple of days at a time. They won't take drying out
well but watch that you don't get them too wet too long. Couple of years and you will notice it has
tripled in girth. Then you can start to worry about the nebari. Responds very well to the roots on
a plate technique for base building. Oh yea, use a micro-nutrient balanced food about 4 times
a season. Or throw a crushed vitamin on the soil about as often.
Or at least that is what works for me. Even though I am certain there are people drawing lots to
see who gets to scream at me first about how contrary this is to published--I don't give them too much
thought or attention and they do just fine.
It is your first and a challenge, to so many, to make it through its first year;
don't worry man, mess it up and I'll send you one. k? Enjoy the journey but
don't take it too seriously. Not at first at least. Right now focus on learning
to water and work on "your life including your plants" not "your plants including
your life" balance.
 
Good Lord; turn your head for ten days and people just start talking about you and
everything. Guess that is what comes from being an instigating-shyte stirring-arse.

To the OP:
Yes they are finicky biotches. They can and will shed their leaves faster than a three dollar crack
whore can strip. BUT get them outside; let them get as much Sun as they can until ten in the AM.
After 10, you want them in highly dappled cool shade. They love the Sun but cannot stand the heat.
Kind of like a fuchsia. Snatch that out of the pot and put it in a big pot. Let it grow and feed it weekly.
Let it ride out all season & winter as is and just as it starts to kick up in the Spring cut the hell out
of it. Following that cut back, cut the bottom half or so of the root ball off. I use a butcher's knife.
Reset it in fresh soil in the same big pot. I use a primarily organic nursery mix that has awesome
drainage but tends to hold its moisture for a couple of days at a time. They won't take drying out
well but watch that you don't get them too wet too long. Couple of years and you will notice it has
tripled in girth. Then you can start to worry about the nebari. Responds very well to the roots on
a plate technique for base building. Oh yea, use a micro-nutrient balanced food about 4 times
a season. Or throw a crushed vitamin on the soil about as often.
Or at least that is what works for me. Even though I am certain there are people drawing lots to
see who gets to scream at me first about how contrary this is to published--I don't give them too much
thought or attention and they do just fine.
It is your first and a challenge, to so many, to make it through its first year;
don't worry man, mess it up and I'll send you one. k? Enjoy the journey but
don't take it too seriously. Not at first at least. Right now focus on learning
to water and work on "your life including your plants" not "your plants including
your life" balance.

Thanks so much armetisius! This post is exactly what I needed to hear and confirmed what Ive learned through reading/watching over the past month. I think Ive got at least a basic hold on watering and how it responds. I accidentally overwatered last week and although it drained well, the tray underneath was too full allowing water to stay in the soil for a few hours. I walked by it later that day and flower and leaves dropped from the vibration; lesson learned.

Its a journey and there are many many lessons to be learned and ill take it as it comes. slowly. Thanks again for the honesty and straightforward no bs approach!

/ken
 
Good Lord; turn your head for ten days and people just start talking about you and
everything. Guess that is what comes from being an instigating-shyte stirring-arse.


Grimmy you could not have timed this better I guess. Just closed that sheet set and the
building is off to the printers. Whew! Such a simple building nearly whipped my a$$
with its "vagueness".


Up until about an hour or so ago I have been designing & drawing a "Wedding Chapel Barn"
for the last couple of weeks. Could have saved the man a couple grand of costs if he had just
agreed to do it my way to begin with. 3 iterations to come back to almost the exact drawings
I took to the initial presentation. After 18+ years of banquets I am the one you want laying out
your facilities. Oh well; his way my check is fuller. Even got to buy me some of them there bone zeye
pots by mail. [Even if they had to be bought at 2AM.] This client is so country even his hayseed
has an accent. So long as his check doesn't bounce he can speak Flemish for all I care.

To the OP:
Yes they are finicky biotches. They can and will shed their leaves faster than a three dollar crack
whore can strip. BUT get them outside; let them get as much Sun as they can until ten in the AM.
After 10, you want them in highly dappled cool shade. They love the Sun but cannot stand the heat.
Kind of like a fuchsia. Snatch that out of the pot and put it in a big pot. Let it grow and feed it weekly.
Let it ride out all season & winter as is and just as it starts to kick up in the Spring cut the hell out
of it. Following that cut back, cut the bottom half or so of the root ball off. I use a butcher's knife.
Reset it in fresh soil in the same big pot. I use a primarily organic nursery mix that has awesome
drainage but tends to hold its moisture for a couple of days at a time. They won't take drying out
well but watch that you don't get them too wet too long. Couple of years and you will notice it has
tripled in girth. Then you can start to worry about the nebari. Responds very well to the roots on
a plate technique for base building. Oh yea, use a micro-nutrient balanced food about 4 times
a season. Or throw a crushed vitamin on the soil about as often.
Or at least that is what works for me. Even though I am certain there are people drawing lots to
see who gets to scream at me first about how contrary this is to published--I don't give them too much
thought or attention and they do just fine.
It is your first and a challenge, to so many, to make it through its first year;
don't worry man, mess it up and I'll send you one. k? Enjoy the journey but
don't take it too seriously. Not at first at least. Right now focus on learning
to water and work on "your life including your plants" not "your plants including
your life" balance.

Thanks for that post. I don't know anything and don't have these trees but your post deserved a more personal thanks :), rather than just my like.
 
Hello! get a ficus- it'll do better under LED's if you want to grow inside. Done it for years with good success. Outside still the best though :)
 
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