19Mateo83
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I just noticed this maple at the end of my street was holding samaras. I thought that this was a red maple for years, but they drop samaras in spring. Any ideas to a identification? Could this be some sort of trident cross?
Red maple? Trident maple? Need help with ID
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19Mateo83
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Could this actually be a black maple? What do y’all think. I didn’t think they did to well in southern heat.
https://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/trees/plants/black_maple.html
https://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/trees/plants/black_maple.html
19Mateo83
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The samaras look right for a black maple
Shibui
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Definitely not trident maple but I don't know many of your US maple species so can't help with this ID
penumbra
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Looks a bit like a hedge maple, Acer campestre.
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
If it's a landscape tree planted by developers Field Maple (acer campestre) is a likely candidate. They're a European species. Leaves and samaras are right for that species.
Maiden69
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You are in zone 7b, Acer Nigrum is allocated as far down as 7b, and part of the native species for North Carolina. Seeds are correct for it as well, btw I had no idea they were called samaras, but then again English is my second language. I did a search for campestre as I have never seen one in person and the samaras wings are longitudinal in almost every image I found.
gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org
Acer nigrum (black maple): Go Botany
gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org
19Mateo83
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I will get some pictures of the tree as a whole and the bark sometime today.
Maiden69
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One thing I seen in the images for Nigrum is that the new buds are colored dark grey to black, same color like when JM die back. I think there was one picture on the link I posted above.
Njyamadori
Chumono
Looks like a big tooth maple for sure
penumbra
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The Big Tooth maple, Acer grandidetatum, is a western tree. I'm not sure if it grows in NC but I doubt it is naturalized there.
19Mateo83
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The leaves are thick and leathery like an oak tree leaf is.
19Mateo83
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penumbra
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That is a pretty big tree, certainly not a hedge or field maple.
Leprous Garden
Yamadori
Bark and size are wrong for field maple. Black maple is possible, I don't think it's red for the above stated reasons. Trouble with lawn plants is the amazing number of hybrids and cultivars which can have intermediate characteristics.
Maiden69
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How to Identify Maple Trees | Waterford Citizens' Association (WCA) of Waterford Virginia
This page describes how to identify red maple, norway maple, sugar maple, silver maple, and black maple trees. Both leaf and bark are shown.
www.waterfordcitizens.org
North Carolina specific site
Sugar maple have the same seeds as well... and the bark picture in this site looks similar.
Sugar Maple
A deciduous tree from the Maple Family (Aceraceae). Zone: 4-8; Growth Rate: Slow; Mature Spread: 40'; Mature Height: 80'; Shape: Upright oval; Sunlight: Full to part sun; Soil Type: Rich, moderately deep, even moisture, good drainage
19Mateo83
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So are we leaning towards black maple?
Frozentreehugger
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The seeds look very much like sugar maple . But nothing else does . Leaves and leaf stem are wrong . Black maple is really a cultivar of sugar . Or extremely close relative . Depending on your info source . The side lobes of black maple leaves droop the bark is darker grey in pure form there is a small leaf stem at the base of the leaf stem . And it does not colour as red in the fall but it’s basically a sugar . 7 b would be about the heat limit of sugar . So don’t think it will grow that healthy . Correct me but I is there not a southern sugar maple sometimes called Florida maple . I have never seen one . I have never seen a sugar or black that does not have distinct 5 lobe leaves . So I really don’t think it’s sugar . . But the seeds shape of seed and wing and the angle the 2 are attached together is dead on sugar colour is off on the wings
Pitoon
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I concur.
Ming dynasty
Shohin
Wait I can take pics of the new maple I bought and y’all can help me ID it? What will y’all need? Normally the people I buy them from label the variety but this guy did not.
