Pruning deciduous trees

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It seems like some people look at fall or winter as the best time to prune deciduous trees while the leaves are off, while others wait until summer after the first flush of leaves harden. What do you do and why?

I tended to be a winter pruner because I could see what I was doing and I have the spare time to work on (and enjoy) my trees. In the spring you get two benefits: the tree only puts its energy into the buds you left behind (or in other words, selected as places you want branching the following year), and you get back-budding and ramification.

Brent Walston's articles on Evergreen Gardenworks elaborates on this - and maybe I'm missing it, but I don't think he gives a simple answer, but rather lays out the effects winter pruning would have:

"The strongest response to terminal bud removal will occur in winter because there will be no bud break (and subsequent suppression) until soil temperatures begin to warm up and the roots begin to grow, signaling the buds to break into leaves. Thus winter pruning will produce the most bud break by interrupting apical dominance (terminal bud suppression) for the longest period. Summer pinching of the terminal bud will ordinarily give you only a two bud break, resulting in good ramification. So winter is the time for most heaving pruning, spring is the time for ramification pruning."

"Leaves manufacture plant food, roots store plant food.
OK, obvious again, but what are the ramifications? Top pruning a plant at the end of the season (fall or winter) leaves all of the food intact to stimulate new growth in the spring. A full complement of food with no where to go will stimulate new buds and the new growth will be explosive and coarse, some deciduous plants may send out an eight foot sprout one inch thick in a single season (or more!). Severely top pruning a plant just after it leafs out in the spring uses up most of the stored food because the roots must send out a second burst of food to stimulate even more buds. This depletion will cause very weak new growth and will slow the plant down.
Not pruning a plant in winter or spring leaves the maximum number of buds to be stimulated into flowers and leaves and twigs, this taxes the roots to the fullest and will produce the smallest leaves, and the closest internodes (spaces between the leaves) on the new stems. Confining roots, as in a bonsai pot, limits their ability to store food, which in turn will diminish the leaves and internodes even further. This is the basic mechanism for dwarfing a plant in bonsai."


I'd highlight a few bits of info:
  • Energy stored for the winter is divided across all the buds on the tree in spring: the more buds, the finer the branching and shorter the internodes. The fewer buds, the coarser the branching and longer the internodes. Especially for a tree in refinement, we'd want to avoid excessive winter pruning in order to achieve and maintain fine growth.
  • Removing the terminal / apical bud in winter removes suppression of lateral branching for the longest period of time, resulting in the most back-budding and lateral branching / ramification in spring (while summer removal of the terminal/apical bud only results in a couple adventitious buds breaking).
  • Winter is the time for heavy pruning: this statement seems counter to the first statement. Many people suggest structural pruning in winter while you can see the tree well (without leaves), but others warn of opening wounds that can become infected while the tree isn't growing and cannot close/heal the wounds. This heavy winter pruning for structure would hypothetically be done on a tree in development (or a tree that was refined but got overgrown). Then you'd have to deal with the coarse growth / long internodes in the summer - as Brent mentions, you can in turn cut this growth back hard (early in the season) and get a second, weaker flush.
What I'd glean from this is that during winter, consider removing terminal/apical buds for ramification in the spring, but leave the majority of the buds to ensure fine growth with short internodes. Consider if you need to do any structural pruning, but weigh the cost-benefit of doing that work during the winter (the benefit is that it is easier, the cost is that it leaves an open wound and might result in coarser growth). If you must hard prune in the winter and get coarse growth in the spring, you can cut it back hard (as long as the tree is healthy enough to handle removing its source of energy before it regained the energy it invested in those leaves), and get a finer second flush.

Lastly, Brent also discusses the role roots play in food storage during winter:

"Removing root storage in winter will have the opposite effect. LESS food will find its way into a full complement of buds, causing shorter internode length and smaller leaves. This is what happens in dormant root pruning and repotting. Removing roots during the growing season doesn't significantly upset the food balance, but it does upset the water uptake/ transpiration balance and thus must be accompanied by top pruning, foliage reduction, or environmental change to keep from stressing the plant."

"Confining roots, as in a bonsai pot, limits their ability to store food, which in turn will diminish the leaves and internodes even further. This is the basic mechanism for dwarfing a plant in bonsai."


Removing roots removes energy for spring, which should hypothetically result in finer growth during the spring. If you had to do significant winter pruning to the top of the tree, you could balance this with root pruning so there is less energy divided over fewer buds, avoiding a burst of coarse growth in the spring. Correct? However, he also mentions that confined roots also confine top-growth in the spring. I've found that sometimes root pruning slows growth (especially if your moving to a smaller pot), but some species grow roots so quickly that anytime they are repotted, including if they are heavily root pruned, they have coarser growth in the spring - I'm thinking particularly about my Ficus Carica (common fig). I can basically hack it back to a cutting, and it will burst with energy, but the internodes shorten when the roots are a bit more confined.
 
Most of my bonsai grow much faster after root pruning. Root pruning does not slow growth, it actually speeds it for at least a season.
As time passes and the pots gradually become full of roots there is less space for air , water and nutrients so growth slows.
During development regular root pruning will give better growth. When you need to refine a tree less repotting along with reduced fertilizer will help get shorter internodes and better ramification.

I don't see pruning as one or the other. Winter pruning is important to manage the growth that escaped attention in summer because it was covered in leaves. Winter pruning also allows me to see the structure unimpeded so I can follow branch patterns. Summer pruning is also important to limit growth and promote more shoots and ramification.
 
i prune all through the season, if your trees are in development as mine are, then im constantly trimming back strong apical growth to balance vigour and allow lower to mid branches to develop. then i prune again or clean up at leaf drop.
afterall, its in winter when deciduous trees are at their best. what you do or dont do, will be seen in winter.

i only skim read your post, its all a bit too 'scientific' for me. i prefer to keep bonsai as simple as possible and its more enjoyable for me that way.😊
 
It's not simply a difference between winter pruning and pruning after the leaves harden.

In even the shortest growing seasons up north, pruning after the leaves harden will generate another attempt of growth before the Summer Solstice. Well, in the shortest season, it may stall them out till after the Solstice.

Pruning in winter is completely different.

We should not look at our human characteristics as a "pruner of a certain time".

We should prune at appropriate times, which will change with the situation.

Sorce
 
i prune all through the season, if your trees are in development as mine are, then im constantly trimming back strong apical growth to balance vigour and allow lower to mid branches to develop. then i prune again or clean up at leaf drop.
afterall, its in winter when deciduous trees are at their best. what you do or dont do, will be seen in winter.

i only skim read your post, its all a bit too 'scientific' for me. i prefer to keep bonsai as simple as possible and its more enjoyable for me that way.😊

I know not every is interested in the "why" we do certain things, or "why" the tree responds in certain ways. I enjoy the hobby of bonsai as an aesthetic and tactile activity, and I also enjoy knowledge not only for the sake of improving practice, but also just out of curiosity. I think that curiosity pushed me through graduate school, etc. I actually didn't really expect anyone to address the questions I'm posing - there aren't that many people who truly understand the physiology. I joined a plant horticulture group on Facebook and I actually don't see anymore reference to horticulture and physiology on that page than on any other plant page (houseplant or bonsai). I figured even if there isn't a scientific response to the thoughts I posed, someone else might read it who is novice and interested in that perspective and benefit from thinking about this.

I re-watched some of the Mirai winter videos and one thing mentioned there was pruning in the fall, just after leaves turn. Broadleaf deciduous trees are putting on vascular tissue, so there can be some healing of larger cuts. He gave the example of a maple - you have two times of the year to do that work. Fall or spring. In the spring, you get a flush of shoots around that cut point that can be beneficial or a nuisance. If you just want to cleanly remove the branch without those shoots, he suggests doing it in the fall.

Most of my bonsai grow much faster after root pruning. Root pruning does not slow growth, it actually speeds it for at least a season.
As time passes and the pots gradually become full of roots there is less space for air , water and nutrients so growth slows.
During development regular root pruning will give better growth. When you need to refine a tree less repotting along with reduced fertilizer will help get shorter internodes and better ramification.

I don't see pruning as one or the other. Winter pruning is important to manage the growth that escaped attention in summer because it was covered in leaves. Winter pruning also allows me to see the structure unimpeded so I can follow branch patterns. Summer pruning is also important to limit growth and promote more shoots and ramification.
I agree in terms of root pruning - I wonder if Brent meant for that to be more targeted to conifers, which store their energy in their roots, while deciduous/broadleaf trees store their energy in the trunk.
 
ive seen all the mirai videos where he goes over all the inticate details, its interesting and im a keen listener. i wish i could absorb it and store it in my memory bank, but most is forgotten in a few weeks😊
btw there are actually quite a few on here who understand the deeper physiology.
 
ive seen all the mirai videos where he goes over all the inticate details, its interesting and im a keen listener. i wish i could absorb it and store it in my memory bank, but most is forgotten in a few weeks😊
btw there are actually quite a few on here who understand the deeper physiology.
Yeah - I've had to watch the Mirai videos a few times. I know there are a few who like to think more scientifically - I find that info helpful!
 
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