Pale Green Needles JBP

[turnyface]

Any ideas what’s going on with my 3-yr old JBP?

A couple weeks ago the color changed seemingly overnight from deep, dark green to this paler green color. I also lot a lot of needles near the base of the tree where naked buds now lie in their place.

It’s in 80/20 perlite/coco coir, gets full sun, and watered appropriately. I have six other JBP trees of the same age in the same medium, location, watering cycle, etc., which are all healthy and deep green.

Anything I can do to save it?

 

[Shibui]

Interesting that only this one is affected when all are treated similar. Any chance this one is near the edge of the bunch and may have missed out on adequate watering, even just for a couple of days?
That and maybe root infection or root eating bugs of some sort are my only suggestions at this stage.

 

[MGTT]

Do you think it has Needlecast? Pic 2252 seems to show some signs of needle discoloration. Additionally, the needles seem to be ‘broken’ at the tips, instead of being pointed.

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

Looks on its way out to me. In pines it's sometimes easy to find what caused their death, but more often it's been something that happened a month or longer ago.
Needle cast rarely kills a tree. It usually affects the needles, that can continue doing what they're doing with the exception of a small infected band.

 

[Paradox]

Looks pretty dessicated to me.
So root issue and/or not enough water

 

[namnhi]

I afraid it is the weakest link... good bye scenario on this one.

 

[turnyface]

Yeah, not sure what happened, but agree it’s on its way out.

All the other ones are healthy though!

 

[Grunge_Bonsai]

These look like an Eric Schrader (sp?) batch, am I correct there?

I have about the same number of them in pond baskets (except Boon’s mix with pumice instead of perlite).

Could these just be slowing down at the end of a growing season?

Idk, I have seen some trees survive the damndest things in my short 3 years of growing.

 

[raffaelbaer]

These look like an Eric Schrader (sp?) batch, am I correct there?

I have about the same number of them in pond baskets (except Boon’s mix with pumice instead of perlite).

Could these just be slowing down at the end of a growing season?

Idk, I have seen some trees survive the damndest things in my short 3 years of growing.

He must be following the Mastering Shohin Black Pine Course by Eric Schrader.
Setup just looks too familiar .
Great course tbh, also the juniper one, seems to have content material / knowledge in it you can't find anywhere on youtube, and maybe not even in workshops...

but about @turnyface's pine it honestly seems done to me, as @Wires_Guy_wires said, there could have been something done to it a month ago and it would show up just now. Its just how conifers respond, slowly and gracefully. Nevertheless, I wouldnt worry about losing one young tree, since you've got 6 more to go!

 

[turnyface]

He must be following the Mastering Shohin Black Pine Course by Eric Schrader.
Setup just looks too familiar .
Great course tbh, also the juniper one, seems to have content material / knowledge in it you can't find anywhere on youtube, and maybe not even in workshops...

but about @turnyface's pine it honestly seems done to me, as @Wires_Guy_wires said, there could have been something done to it a month ago and it would show up just now. Its just how conifers respond, slowly and gracefully. Nevertheless, I wouldnt worry about losing one young tree, since you've got 6 more to go!

Yes, it died. All others are still healthy and getting ready for overwinter. I did end up ordering another six pack of pines from Eric after this one died.

And yes, I’m doing both the JBP and juniper courses. It’s been very informative and I’ve learned a lot in a short amount of time.

 

[Grunge_Bonsai]

Same as it ever was. Lose 1, add 6 more!

 

[Wulfskaar]

Yes, it died. All others are still healthy and getting ready for overwinter. I did end up ordering another six pack of pines from Eric after this one died.

And yes, I’m doing both the JBP and juniper courses. It’s been very informative and I’ve learned a lot in a short amount of time.

I've been following Eric's free videos on youtube. He is very good at explaining the logic of what he's doing in a way I can easily digest.

Also, I feel your pain... I just had one of my favorites that I grew from seed (2020) die due to wind knocking it over and not being repotted for many hours. I think the roots just dried out.