Overdose Mancozeb?

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I treated some of my trees with Mancozeb out of concern for juniper tip blight. I'm not 100% sure that's what the issue I'm experiencing is, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to use it as a preventative. At any rate, I used about 1.5oz for a gallon as per instructions. This ended up being wayy to much, but it also ended up being a lot more per gallon than people in another thread I found here referenced using. Can mancozeb cause any issues if it is used in too high a concentration? and if so should I just wash off my trees?
 
Fungicides or biocides in any shape or form, dosed too high, can cause normal cellular functions to stop in plants even though the stuff isn't meant for plantlike organisms. This means that whatever fungus you were treating, will probably be dead, but there might occur some weird issues like chlorosis, sudden death, or other nutrient-deficiency like symptoms in your plants too. It might just be the case that nothing happens.

Cleaning up fungicides isn't a pretty job, it's actually pretty hard. That's because they're made to last, for that extra protection.

I don't know the constituents of mancozeb, and the kind/type of product you've used; there are a couple formulations going around. My first mode of attack would be activated charcoal solutions; it can take up a lot of molecules and keep them caught in a matrix of carbon. It will turn the plant pitch black and it will stick in any crevice. Then I'd oxidize the fungicide with something like peroxide or a weak potassium permanganate solution. This is however, next level chemistry stuff that needs a bunch of research first; you want to know if you're not doing more damage than the fungicide itself, and you'd want to make sure that you're not creating a more carcinogenic byproduct than mancozeb already seems to be.

So what's the best thing to do? I'd say wait it out. See what happens. If you have been doing things according to the instructions on the label, then there might not be an issue at all. If others don't stick to the label, then they might be breeding resistant fungi. That's how antibiotics work: you either do it right, or you can throw them away because they've become useless.
 
Fungicides or biocides in any shape or form, dosed too high, can cause normal cellular functions to stop in plants even though the stuff isn't meant for plantlike organisms. This means that whatever fungus you were treating, will probably be dead, but there might occur some weird issues like chlorosis, sudden death, or other nutrient-deficiency like symptoms in your plants too. It might just be the case that nothing happens.

Cleaning up fungicides isn't a pretty job, it's actually pretty hard. That's because they're made to last, for that extra protection.

I don't know the constituents of mancozeb, and the kind/type of product you've used; there are a couple formulations going around. My first mode of attack would be activated charcoal solutions; it can take up a lot of molecules and keep them caught in a matrix of carbon. It will turn the plant pitch black and it will stick in any crevice. Then I'd oxidize the fungicide with something like peroxide or a weak potassium permanganate solution. This is however, next level chemistry stuff that needs a bunch of research first; you want to know if you're not doing more damage than the fungicide itself, and you'd want to make sure that you're not creating a more carcinogenic byproduct than mancozeb already seems to be.

So what's the best thing to do? I'd say wait it out. See what happens. If you have been doing things according to the instructions on the label, then there might not be an issue at all. If others don't stick to the label, then they might be breeding resistant fungi. That's how antibiotics work: you either do it right, or you can throw them away because they've become useless.
I have a container of neem oil that has become ~semi solid. What is the conventional solvent for hort oils? I'm thinking methanol.
 
I treated some of my trees with Mancozeb out of concern for juniper tip blight. I'm not 100% sure that's what the issue I'm experiencing is, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to use it as a preventative. At any rate, I used about 1.5oz for a gallon as per instructions. This ended up being wayy to much, but it also ended up being a lot more per gallon than people in another thread I found here referenced using. Can mancozeb cause any issues if it is used in too high a concentration? and if so should I just wash off my trees?
Yes simple answer is wash it off foliage with copious amounts of water using a medium/fine spray. Did you apply Mancozeb just to the foliage? You could wrap the pot in polythene to prevent the soil becoming too waterlogged while washing or let the water wash through the soil too if you also treated the soil
 
Yes simple answer is wash it off foliage with copious amounts of water using a medium/fine spray. Did you apply Mancozeb just to the foliage? You could wrap the pot in polythene to prevent the soil becoming too waterlogged while washing or let the water wash through the soil too if you also treated the soil


I only treated foliage
 
Check if your Mancozeb has sulphur in it. It can damage some plants.
 
I have a container of neem oil that has become ~semi solid. What is the conventional solvent for hort oils? I'm thinking methanol.
Try heating it in a tub of warm/hot water or something, it should become fluid again. Or at least parts of it. Fluid enough at least to prepare a spray mixture. It can take a while though, count on 15-35 minutes. If you can, scoop it into a polypropylene (pp5) plastic, those can handle higher temps. without much deforming.
The horticultural oils I have are either dissolved in naphtalene or not at all: when mixed with other oils, they don't solidify. I have one containing rapeseed oil as a solvent and active component.
 
I treated some of my trees with Mancozeb out of concern for juniper tip blight. I'm not 100% sure that's what the issue I'm experiencing is, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to use it as a preventative. At any rate, I used about 1.5oz for a gallon as per instructions. This ended up being wayy to much, but it also ended up being a lot more per gallon than people in another thread I found here referenced using. Can mancozeb cause any issues if it is used in too high a concentration? and if so should I just wash off my trees?
So what happened to your tree did the tree suffer from any damage after the overdose?
 
So what happened to your tree did the tree suffer from any damage after the overdose?
Nope, just good old fashioned paranoia on my end. It's totally fine. Looking back it never needed it anyways, it was just shedding some growth which it does from time to time.
 
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