Obsessed - please help me identify this juniper

[Fidur]

Hello friends,
Of all the seedlings that I bought this season, there is only one of which I still do not know its identification. It had no labels, and it was in a corner of the nursery, without other similar specimens. I have not seen it in any of the nurseries I go to, not before, not after.
I have searched and searched, comparing from images, features .... all useless. When I think I have identified it, I find some characteristic that makes it incompatible .....
For example, I thought it was a juniperus procumbens, but it has no creeping tendency at all, but a vertical one, although it shares the characteristics of the trunk and needles ...
Nor is San José, or stricta or squamata.
From what I have seen, it has two rows of stomata, and I don't know anything about the cones because it has only been with me for about 6 months. To the touch, it is not as smooth as a chamaecyparis, but it is not spicy either. The trunk is of a beautiful red color.
As soon as I got home, I cut off some branches and got four cuttings that I have already transplanted. Some appear in the photos in case it would help in the identification.

The best thing is that you look at the photos:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/NCpz7UPLC5MaFxbMA

Well, as I say, I'm a little obsessed. Any hint that you could give me will be useful to me.
Greetings

 

[HENDO]

Google Lens says Blue Pacific Shore Juniper

 

[Fidur]

I´ve been watching online resources, and the BPSJ doesn´t seem to be as vertical...... but it could be. Thanks a lot.

 

[Fidur]

I think I (hopefully) have found it: chamaecyparis thyoides top point

 

[Dkdhej]

Could be Chamaecyparis thyoides 'Rubicon'
One minute late lol

 

[Wires_Guy_wires]

It's not a juniper, I can fairly sure tell you that.
It doesn't have the typical juniper growth habit. Nor the juniper foliage, nor the waxy epidermis we see on junipers.
Cryptomeria comes to mind, specifically Taiwania cryptomerioides. Could be Cunninghamia lanceolota.
Chamaecyparis is also very well possible.

 

[Fidur]

Thanks to all for the efforts. You folks are extraordinary !
I think I will sleep well tonigth!

 

[just.wing.it]

Juniperus undesirablus foemina

 

[Fidur]

I'm sorry I thought this was a juniper. Excuse me, I'm a begginer. But I think I have learned something. Thanks
Regards.

 

[Crazy Diamond]

Chamaecyparis thyoides cultivar

 

[Bonsai Nut]

I'm sorry I thought this was a juniper. Excuse me, I'm a begginer. But I think I have learned something. Thanks
Regards.

FWIW... note that what you are seeing on your Atlantic white cedar is juvenile needle foliage. As it grows older and larger the tree will shift towards adult scale foliage. When you Google images of Chamaecyparis thyoides (Atlantic white cedar) you may see adult trees that look quite different from your tree. This may be due to the different foliage.

 

[Fidur]

FWIW... note that what you are seeing on your Atlantic white cedar is juvenile needle foliage. As it grows older and larger the tree will shift towards adult scale foliage. When you Google images of Chamaecyparis thyoides (Atlantic white cedar) you may see adult trees that look quite different from your tree. This may be due to the different foliage.

I think this form of Atlantic White Cedar (top point) only grows in needle foliage. That is what I see in every picture of this form. It is stated also here

 

[Bonsai Nut]

Chamaecyparis thyoides ‘Top Point’ is a superior compact selection with an interesting texture and narrow habit. This upright conifer displays two types of foliage, both needle-like and scale-like. Muted green in summer, the versatile tree takes on a rich purple blush in winter. Use it in a large container, an entry courtyard or an intimate border. Provide even moisture for best results.

I have never seen a large Atlantic white cedar with only juvenile foliage. One might exist... but I have never seen it.

 

[Fidur]

Not too many adults of this cultivar I guess (first specimen date back 1985).
When I decide to style it, I guess it will be important to know what will happen to the foliage in the future. ( or really not?).
My specimen doesn't seem to change to adult scales (I think it´s only 3 or 4 years old)...How old should it be to say it´s an adult?
Hope someone answers to this 2 questions.....

 

[Crazy Diamond]

Many Chamaecyparis and other conifer dwarf cultivars maintain the juvenile foliage all their live. Like Thuja occidentalis "Teddy" for example:

 

[Fidur]

An update so everybody have a little more information on this cultivar of atlantic white cedar.
I have finally identified the cultivar of my specimen as "red star" or rubicón (spanish).
So this is a Chamaecyparis thyoides "red star"
This cultivar has only needle like foliage, and it turns reddish in winter.
They are used for bonsai (especially in Colombia, where it´s named "pino estrella", I guess because the needles in frontal view are like stars)
These videos can show you how do they look, once you work with them