Need help with pine Id

[19Mateo83]

Does anyone know what this tree is?

The cones are upright on the branches and look like little hornet nests. They fall apart into little wings.

The needles are in little clusters

 

[jszg]

Deodar cedar! If not Deodar, then another species of Cedrus

 

[19Mateo83]

Around here the big ones are planted around old farmhouses. Any idea how hard seeds are to germinate?

 

[jszg]

On second thought, it might be a bit too cold for Deodar, could be Cedrus libani instead. Cedrus seed in general needs a short period of damp cold before sowing, my book recommends 14 days at 30-40 F. They are rather prone to forming a taproot, however.

 

[Mike Westervelt]

My is vote Deodar based on the cones, with regard to seeds, I'd refer to Sheffield Seed for germination instructions

 

[0soyoung]

Deodar cedar! If not Deodar, then another species of Cedrus

Or some variety of (true) fir.

But, I too agree with your guess that this is Deodor.

 

[CapeCodBonsai]

Any idea how hard seeds are to germinate?

In my (limited) experience, I found Deodar germinates more readily than Cedar of Lebanon or Atlas.

 

[CapeCodBonsai]

Or some variety of (true) fir.

But, I too agree with your guess that this is Deodor.

Based on the “tuft” of needles, I’d vote for Cedar over Fir. I believe Fir needles attach to the stem individually.

 

[19Mateo83]

Based on the “tuft” of needles, I’d vote for Cedar over Fir. I believe Fir needles attach to the stem individually.

The clumps of needles is what’s been throwing me off, there’s no natural cedars around here with needles, of course our eastern red cedars are technically a juniper. I knew it wasn’t hemlock, spruce or fir due to the needles being in clumps.

 

[Potawatomi13]

Some variety true Cedar/Cedrus.

 

[Shibui]

Long needles and droopy growth habit + bark = Cedrus deodar.

There's a post on this thread https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/blue-atlas-cedar-seeds.58162/ with details of successful germination for Cedrus atlantica. Use the same for deodar.

 

[19Mateo83]

Long needles and droopy growth habit + bark = Cedrus deodar.

There's a post on this thread https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/blue-atlas-cedar-seeds.58162/ with details of successful germination for Cedrus atlantica. Use the same for deodar.

Thank you for the link!