My Shimpaku about 1 month of recovery.

[Deleted member 49943]

This is my infested and neglected 20-30yo Shimpaku. Anyone have any idea what variety it is. Still has a way to go but all the rot is gone and dry and no pest to speak of. Recommendations to help it bounce back

 

[Gabler]

Recommendations to help it bounce back

Let it be for a year after recovering from an illness. Once it builds up tons of energy, then get to work. Water and fertilize normally.

 

[PonderingSage:]

Maybe misting, it really helps collected trees turn the corner.
(I like that the tree is chillin’ poolside )

 

[Shibui]

Time and good care and conditions is good for recovering plants. Good light, enough water, increasing fertilizer as it continues to recover

Recognize that this is a tall tree and is apical dominant which can mean it will send more resources to the upper branches and less to the low ones. When it comes time for pruning and trimming you'll probably need to trim upper branches more and harder than lower ones to encourage more even growth.

 

[ShimpakuBonsai]

Anyone have any idea what variety it is.

Hard to tell based on your pictures, do you have a close up of the foliage?

 

[Deleted member 49943]

Hard to tell based on your pictures, do you have a close up of the foliage?

Yupp! And thank you.

 

[Deleted member 49943]

Time and good care and conditions is good for recovering plants. Good light, enough water, increasing fertilizer as it continues to recover

Recognize that this is a tall tree and is apical dominant which can mean it will send more resources to the upper branches and less to the low ones. When it comes time for pruning and trimming you'll probably need to trim upper branches more and harder than lower ones to encourage more even growth.

Once I can id the variety, im gonna airlayer it where it was allowed to grow wild. Take a 1/3 of the top and graft a smaller new trunk.

 

[brentwood]

A lot of green in your tips, that's a good sign right?). If that were mine, I'd say it was itoigawa

Good luck,
B

 

[bwaynef]

With this tree nowhere near healthy, you're a ways from knowing what its growth habits are. You can definitively call it a shimpaku, but beyond that, I'm not sure anyone could say. Get the health of the tree sorted before worrying about airlayering or grafting. Your chance of success improves drastically on a healthy tree.

You have two paths forward. 1. Leave it alone until its health[y|ier]. Situate it in full sun and water it often. 2. Do a light cleaning, focusing on foliage that's growing/hanging downward. Leave the tips of branches alone! Wire primaries out/down. As you see new growth and vigor return, finish cleaning it. Of the two, I think the 2nd would have the quicker turn around. The 1st will work, but requires patience. Don't fertilize until you see lots more growth. Repot it in spring and make sure its immobilized in the pot.

I'm not convinced the poor growth is insect or fungal -related, but it would be something I'd monitor.

Do you have any professionals or advanced club members available to help you with the work?

 

[Deleted member 49943]

With this tree nowhere near healthy, you're a ways from knowing what its growth habits are. You can definitively call it a shimpaku, but beyond that, I'm not sure anyone could say. Get the health of the tree sorted before worrying about airlayering or grafting. Your chance of success improves drastically on a healthy tree.

You have two paths forward. 1. Leave it alone until its health[y|ier]. Situate it in full sun and water it often. 2. Do a light cleaning, focusing on foliage that's growing/hanging downward. Leave the tips of branches alone! Wire primaries out/down. As you see new growth and vigor return, finish cleaning it. Of the two, I think the 2nd would have the quicker turn around. The 1st will work, but requires patience. Don't fertilize until you see lots more growth. Repot it in spring and make sure its immobilized in the pot.

I'm not convinced the poor growth is insect or fungal -related, but it would be something I'd monitor.

Do you have any professionals or advanced club members available to help you with the work?

I'm going to go with option one. I have so many other plants to deal with im gonna let this one keep recovering.

 

[Paradox]

Leaving it be to let it recover and get stronger is the best course of action. Do no work on it at all.

Monitor watering. Water the soil when it is almost dry. Don't let it dry out but don't drown it either.

If you are seeing growing tips, give it a light feeding every 2 weeks for the next 2 months.

We are approaching fall, so getting this tree through the winter could be dicey.

If it recovers, I would give it all next year to recover and grow strong again.

Good luck

 

[Deleted member 49943]

Seeing lots of new healthy growth! Anybody with an itoigawa reconize this growth?

 

[trigo]

Seeing lots of new healthy growth! Anybody with an itoigawa reconize this growth?

this looks like juvenile growth to me

 

[Deleted member 49943]

this looks like juvenile growth to me

Of what variety? Old owner says kishu but it looks nothing like what I got from bonsaify

 

[bwaynef]

Seeing lots of new healthy growth! Anybody with an itoigawa reconize this growth?

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With this tree nowhere near healthy, you're a ways from knowing what its growth habits are.

 

[Deleted member 49943]

The bonsai pot it was in was clogged. The tree was basically waterlogged for some time.