My new pond cypress, Help

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Just picked up a pond cypress. About 4’ tall with many small buds or leafs growing it’s whole length.I believe it will sit outside until somewhere in the summer before I touch it. Or should I start anything now. Which is my big weakness because of my age. Help,want to prune off top branches,and see how small ones grow what should I do. Thanks in advance. Stuart
 
Posting some pictures would help. As would some clarity on what it is you need help with.

If it’s 4 feet of trunk, you may wish to chop it lower this year in order to allow for the new growth to grow out near the chopsite (the top will generally grow much stronger than the rest). Essentially, it may be that part of the top is not useful in the design.

I will let the pond/bald cypress experts fill in the rest.
 
Just picked up a pond cypress. About 4’ tall with many small buds or leafs growing it’s whole length.I believe it will sit outside until somewhere in the summer before I touch it. Or should I start anything now. Which is my big weakness because of my age. Help,want to prune off top branches,and see how small ones grow what should I do. Thanks in advance. Stuart
How big is the diameter of the trunk. From your description, it appears to be a juvenile tree. Does is have many branches yet?
 
I'll help you out with one of the pics...

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I'll help you out with one of the pics...

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Given the time consideration that you mentioned, I say wire the tree for a literati bonsai and have fun with it. If you chop this cypress now, it will develop another top exactly the same size, you are not going to get much taper. Only thing you get is 3-4 months delay in tree growth. Wire it and bend it any shape you like, using both wire and guy wire. Guy wire back to the main trunk is quite effective. Just make sure you protect the trunk from the wire. The tree will grow fast and you don't want the wire to bite in.
 
Thank you for the reply!! Would I do this work now or leave alone til after summer. If I leave it out should I fertilize. It. If I do work now does that include repot also. ( the roots seem to be growing out of nursery pot). thanks again Stuart
 
I really thought I would get a little more responses or help please!! Cajunrider had good advice but it seems drastic with my lack of experience. But I think I would enjoy trying.
 
I think CajunRider is right. You basically have 2 options...

1. Let it grow thicker by just letting it grow.
2. Wire it into a literati shape or some other shape you want.

He mentioned that cutting/pruning it now will only slow it's growth, so that's probably not what you want.

Also, yes, you probably want to fertilize it regularly and keep it outside.
 
I really thought I would get a little more responses or help please!! Cajunrider had good advice but it seems drastic with my lack of experience. But I think I would enjoy trying.
My advice is not really drastic. Wrap some wire around it then gently bend it to any shape you like. Have some fun with curves on the trunks and branches.
 
If the tree has growth like above, repotting now it would be a problem. Pond cypress tends to be a little less vigorous than Bald Cypress. Root work once green growth has appeared can weaken the tree considerably, particularly if you've working on the top growth.
 
So just to make sure if I decide on literati I still should not touch until end of summer. Or do I strip trunk of lower growth and try to bend into a shape then stop until summer. And please
 
If the tree has growth like above, repotting now it would be a problem. Pond cypress tends to be a little less vigorous than Bald Cypress. Root work once green growth has appeared can weaken the tree considerably, particularly if you've working on the top growth.
I think I will let sit till end of summer, but do you think I can bend trunk into a more interesting look,and then let it sit. Thanks for the reply Stuart
 
I think I will let sit till end of summer, but do you think I can bend trunk into a more interesting look,and then let it sit. Thanks for the reply Stuart
Sure you can probably do that, but I wouldn't go overboard with drastic bends. Try introducing gently curves. If you get too aggressive, you risk compromising the tree's ability to function. Because the trunk is so thin, damage can happen and that damage may wind up killing whatever is above the bend (s) you put in it.
 
Do you think I should use raffia with wire to make bends,or just wire. Still wonder if I have to strip all the lower growth
 
I personally wouldn't strip the lower growth yet. There is always a chance that there will develop a branch. It increases the options to design + taper to the trunk.

The tree is young. You do not need raffia but don't let the wire on for more than a season as it can bite into the trunk and leave unsightly scars for years.

The focus on a young tree should be the trunk and roots. How thick do you want the trunk to grow? Not pleased yet? Let it grow untouched. Pleased with the thickness of the trunk? Chop it to desired hight. As for the roots; aim for fine ramification so it will fit and sustain in a shallow pot. After purchase I would plant it in inorganic soil after checking the roots and maybe trim to promote a fine rootsystem.
 
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Do you think I should use raffia with wire to make bends,or just wire. Still wonder if I have to strip all the lower growth
To be honest, I wouldn't bother with raffia or wire. Raffia would do more harm than good and you wouldn't be able to get applied correctly (it has to be extremely tight and that tension on a trunk this small might crush it, not to mention it takes a bit of know how in getting raffia right even for more experienced bonsaiists). Very thin wire might be used, but again, it will be mostly overkill.

To level with you, this is material that needs to mature mostly. The only useable portion of this tree is about the lower six to eight inches of the trunk, maybe. There is very little to work with at this point. It needs to just grow and expand. Unfortunately that can take years. Pond cypress has relatively large foliage, coarser branching and less compact growth habits compared species such as maple and elm. Bald and pond cypress bonsai tend to be on the large side for those reasons and they're easily collected in larger sizes. Pond and Bald cypress grow very quickly, although pond is a bit slower than BC. In any case, You can probably double the size of this trunk by just putting it in a bit larger pot with dense slow draining soil and leaving it alone for a year (more would be better), or better yet, find a spot in the yard that stays pretty wet and collects rain water drainage.

If you want to get more immediate results, you have to start with more mature material. A trunk even twice that size might be useable. The photo below is of a group of pond cypress at the National Bonsai and Penjing Museum in D.C. they have long fluid trunks and might be something to aim for with a long trunk like yours, however, they are very large trees, 3-4 feet tall, which gives room for branching and foliage.

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Thanks rockm. Sobering news but making most sense . I guess I will let sit and grow more. Should I cut down the top to grow trunk or just wait for everything to mature.
 
Thanks everybody ,I have chose to just cut a few branches on crown. It seemed maybe one branched was broken( seemed very limp and floppy). I can do any work in the summer or end of Summer.Thank You ALL !!!!!
 
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