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Hi everyone,

Here is my afternoon project. What do you think? I found the rock in my apartment complex. There's a lot of new experiences here, muck and a rock to name a few. no idea if it will be successful but the fun is in the experiment and impermanence.

The pot I bought was a lot bigger than what I thought I needed. Does it detract?
 

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Does this work?
Apologies for not being clear.
A pot is an integral part of the whole bonsai. To decide whether the pot is too big or too small visually, we need to be able to look at the whole tree and pot at once. Step back and take a photo that shows the outside of the pot and the whole tree. Try to take photos at the same level as the trunk of your tree rather than looking down into the pot.
There's also the horticultural aspect of pot size. Does it have enough volume to sustain the roots of the tree?

The new photo shows a shallow layer of gravel in a deep pot. What purpose do you expect the pot and that gravel will serve? Do you intend that the tree's roots will grow into the gravel in the pot or stay confined to the rock? In other words, is the pot simply to hold the rock planting and the gravel there for aesthetic (visual) or is it aimed to actually sustain the tree?

Making some wild guesses from what I can see, I'd say that pot is way too big and way too deep for the current bonsai.
Perhaps this might give you a better picture of what I mean.
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I started out with the idea of roots confined to pockets of soil on the rock but it's way too small for that so the roots now grow down the pockets of 'muck' and into the gravel in the tray.
The tray is a suiban - meaning a pot with no holes. It's only 1cm deep and filled with just 10mm gravel, no actual soil. Water fills the pot after watering but usually evaporates completely through the day leaving the roots almost dry but that pool of water is enough to sustain the 3 trees through hot days. Without that extra water they would be dead in days. That's the horticultural aspect of pots size and shape.
Visually, the pot is wide and deep enough to make the planting appear stable but small enough not to dominate the overall composition.
 
Apologies for not being clear.
A pot is an integral part of the whole bonsai. To decide whether the pot is too big or too small visually, we need to be able to look at the whole tree and pot at once. Step back and take a photo that shows the outside of the pot and the whole tree. Try to take photos at the same level as the trunk of your tree rather than looking down into the pot.
There's also the horticultural aspect of pot size. Does it have enough volume to sustain the roots of the tree?

The new photo shows a shallow layer of gravel in a deep pot. What purpose do you expect the pot and that gravel will serve? Do you intend that the tree's roots will grow into the gravel in the pot or stay confined to the rock? In other words, is the pot simply to hold the rock planting and the gravel there for aesthetic (visual) or is it aimed to actually sustain the tree?

Making some wild guesses from what I can see, I'd say that pot is way too big and way too deep for the current bonsai.
Perhaps this might give you a better picture of what I mean.
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I started out with the idea of roots confined to pockets of soil on the rock but it's way too small for that so the roots now grow down the pockets of 'muck' and into the gravel in the tray.
The tray is a suiban - meaning a pot with no holes. It's only 1cm deep and filled with just 10mm gravel, no actual soil. Water fills the pot after watering but usually evaporates completely through the day leaving the roots almost dry but that pool of water is enough to sustain the 3 trees through hot days. Without that extra water they would be dead in days. That's the horticultural aspect of pots size and shape.
Visually, the pot is wide and deep enough to make the planting appear stable but small enough not to dominate the overall composition.
Thank you for the in depth response. I have attached a picture as best as I could do at the moment. I am familiar with suiban in my ikebana practice as well. That does seem like a suitable option as it might best serve this rock.
 

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For development, the current deep pot is OK but for display, for show the pot completely overwhelms the tree, even including the rock.

Please not that is not always negative. Is your immediate aim show or development?
 
For development, the current deep pot is OK but for display, for show the pot completely overwhelms the tree, even including the rock.

Please not that is not always negative. Is your immediate aim show or development?
I believe that I am currently in a position of wanting to develop my understanding of bonsai through watching the trees to develop.

I don’t have any inkling of wanting to show anything at the moment but maybe one day when I have a deeper rooted knowledge, that will change.

I appreciate the feedback immensely. I want to find an appropriate suiban for display soon. I feel that for the money spent on this pot, my budget and fiscal responsibility to letting the tree do its thing until another tree comes along is the play at hand. However I do hold notion that it would be helpful to have a suiban so I can appreciate the aesthetic development.
 
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