Juniperus procumbens 'Green Mound' from 2015

[GrimLore]

@sorce back in 2015 I bought this green mound and a blue mound. The blue mound I killed by leaving it in a hanging basket unattended all Winter. This one however I just took out of the 4 inch deep pot, filled an 8 1/2 inch with 5 inches of high fired slate for weight and jammed it on top of that.

I posted this so that anyone with a bit of patience can potentially come up with a decent plant to learn on and enjoy on a dime... Myself now that I will work it I am pretty confident it will look OK especially repotted maybe next year.

Have done zero work on it except the initial bend of branches to flow on one side. It was 4 - 6 inches tall and wide. I took it off the bench to finally trim today and perhaps give it some shape. The whole plant is 37 inches from top to bottom and tapers down from its widest point of 15 inches to 6 inches at the bottom. We discussed at some point they may or not be a "good Idea" but I am pretty certain working it I can make a decent cascade.

First picture is today with no work, need to plan it over some beer



Next the base that was about a 1/4 inch, this was 4.99USD at Lowes -



Oh and I don't know if there were any before today as it is the first time I really looked it over but seems to me it has quite a few berries -




Grimmy

 

[Ryceman3]

Look forward to seeing what happens after a few beers.... ?

 

[GrimLore]

Look forward to seeing what happens after a few beers.... ?

It will be a few days but only because I let it grow wild now on the start of the third season... There is a lot to work with and it can be a Semi-Cascade or cascade because of it. I looked at this plant most of the afternoon while I took an Itoigawa cutting three years old down hard to now give it some definition and goals - For any small Juniper it just takes a few short years to have something to really work with. The point I was really trying to make was to beginners - 2 - 3 years is not a long time although it may take another 10 to have something decent or nice. This all takes time but hey the time I spend I enjoy

Grimmy

 

[M. Frary]

Doesn't look like procumbens foliage.
Adult or juvenile.
The adult foliage is a lot like shimpaku.

 

[GrimLore]

Doesn't look like procumbens foliage.
Adult or juvenile.
The adult foliage is a lot like shimpaku.

I will do a photo close up of both the next time there are larger here needing work. I can assure you this one is a Green Mound though as labeled. If I left this on the ground it would simply hug it. By bending the top branches over in one direction at receipt and potting it simply has all grown over the edge headed to the ground never moved since 2015. There is a single branch in the back that was pinned between fence and pot - it is shorter, has light colored foliage, and still continued to grow downward with little sun. Although I do not have one this year they can also be staked to grow upwards and all the branches will weep.

Grimmy

 

[Vance Wood]

Doesn't look like procumbens foliage.
Adult or juvenile.
The adult foliage is a lot like shimpaku.

I agree Mike it looks like Blue Sargents Juniper, the parent of the Shimpaku. There is a Juniper we used to use in the Landscape trade used to be called Andora Juniper. It looks very much like that plant, but I seriously doubt that it is Procumbens\Blue Mound\Japanese garden Juniper\ Sonare.

 

[GrimLore]

Doesn't look like procumbens foliage.

I agree Mike it looks like Blue Sargents Juniper, the parent of the Shimpaku.

Both of you made me question myself and it is OK as I prefer to know what is out there. I went through yearly records I keep on acquisitions and found I purchased a Juniperus chinensis sargentii... What say you? Looks to me that is it and I stand corrected
Since then I had several types and have given all but that one away, so I guess I lost track.

Grimmy

 

[Vance Wood]

Both of you made me question myself and it is OK as I prefer to know what is out there. I went through yearly records I keep on acquisitions and found I purchased a Juniperus chinensis sargentii... What say you? Looks to me that is it and I stand corrected
Since then I had several types and have given all but that one away, so I guess I lost track.

Grimmy

You cannot pillory yourself for not getting it right. Junipers are the most misidentified species of trees used in bonsai. If you go through the early bonsai books you will find that the lovely beautiful Junipers are listed as Sargent's Junipers, which is true but the cultivar\ subspecies Shimpaku has not been identified in the literature as yet. To tell you the truth I don't think the Japanese wanted to let the rest of the world know about this special version of Sargent's Juniper existed. They would rather the world thought that this Juniper existed the way it does because of the bonsai magic of Japanese growers. So now we get to your Procumbens Juniper which is actually in a different category from the Sargents. I remember in the day when I started doing bonsai this tree was called the Spiny Greek Juniper. Go figure that one out.

 

[GrimLore]

I remember in the day when I started doing bonsai this tree was called the Spiny Greek Juniper. Go figure that one out.

Thank you! And WOW - when I finally get this started in shape this year and repot in Spring I will repost it as a Spiny Greek Juniper Just kidding, again thank you for your input, greatly appreciated

Grimmy

 

[GrimLore]

The adult foliage is a lot like shimpaku.

Thank you! Serious, it was bothering me because it certainly made good sense

Grimmy

 

[M. Frary]

I guess I lost track.

Crap Grim.
It happens to us all.
Especially when you have lots of trees.

I know 3 types of juniper well. Shimpaku,Parsons and procumbens. If
I still like procumbens junipers best above the others. They look good in both adult and juvenile foliage.
I need to get some more now I think about it. I haven't a one because I sold them all.

 

[just.wing.it]

What happened after those beers man?
You ok???

 

[GrimLore]

What happened after those beers man?

It is only Saturday, that plant is still sitting there and I have two 30 packs to go I did however repot and pillage a much smaller Shimpaku I also cut and sealed a rather big Desert Rose to see if it would bounce back, perhaps bloom next year, or die. It is only 18 years old so why not?

Grimmy

 

[Mrs.Grimmy]

I was hoping Grimmy had finished this thought... I have a black thumb when it comes to junipers and I will have to break that trend to keep this one healthy.

 

[just.wing.it]

I will have to break that trend to keep this one healthy.

That's the spirit!
You got it!

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

My condolences Mrs Grimmy
We miss GrimLore

 

[sorce]

But.. @Mrs.Grimmy
Welcome to Crazy!?

Awesome!

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