Is Bonsai Mirai Live Worth $300/year?

Adaptability, flexibility, the ability to take ideas that are
not connected - nexus thinking - fed by much knowledge,
that's a creative soul.

After 27, most concrete as the brain goes.

So you teach by rote, tidy placements, what looks good
or acceptable ----------- but you run the risk of cookie
cutter work.
Good Day
Anthony
 
No I don't. Only technique can be learned. You can't teach someone to be creative, but you can show them what to look for.
You can't teach some one how to ''see'' IMO.
In a musical sense for example, a teacher can show a student a C minor with a flat fifth and a sharp ninth and introduce how it sounds to his/her ear etc; but he cannot show how to use it except to give an example of something already done.
Interesting. A large part of why I continue to do bonsai is to learn to be artistic. I considered myself one of the least artistic people alive. Then again, I have never tried to be artistic until I got into this hobby. I think it can be learned. One of us will be shown to be correct I guess.
 
Saddler,

what is killing most of these folk is ------- dedication

It takes 3 to 5 years to get a tree / shrub LUSH.
I am not talking about wires or pruning.
Just getting healthy to prune or wire,

It takes 3 to 10 years to get the Design part.

The objective is simple ----------- It must please the eye.

All of this for a plant.
We also suggest to some to keep their mallsai healthy
and often never see these folk again.
So - Dedication
Good Day
Anthony
 
Adaptability, flexibility, the ability to take ideas that are
not connected - nexus thinking - fed by much knowledge,
that's a creative soul.

After 27, most concrete as the brain goes.

So you teach by rote, tidy placements, what looks good
or acceptable ----------- but you run the risk of cookie
cutter work.
Good Day
Anthony
Neuroplasticity exists in adults.
 
Nonsense. Of course people can learn to be creative and can develop aesthetic sensibilities (how to “see”). Babies are not creative and they don’t have a good sense for design. Ergo, you learned it and that means someone else can too. It might be challenging and require some sustained effort and studying with a mentor who can show you how, but it is most definitely not impossible.

I can play guitar. Took some lessons as a teenager, even had a small garage band. I can't play like say Eddie Van Halen, never could, never will. I don't have what it takes. I can admit that.

My mother played piano. As a kid I remember her sitting down and playing boogie woogie, eight to the bar. Base hand playing the melody while the other crashes out the verse. Very hard to do. She was good, but she was no piano virtuoso playing at Carnegie Hall.

It's also possible to win the lottery, I know people that have played it for decades....need I say more?


"to be creative"
"develop aesthetic sensibilities"
"good sense for design"

Book learning, video learning and practical application are two different things. You may LEARN those things by watching or reading but application at a high level requires talent, and that is what seperates those that can DO it and those that can RECITE it. Thats what I'm talking about. Show me what you learned, not you specifically. I mean if a person is going to argue for all this knowledge that I would think there could be some practical application shown.

If some, and there have been many in this thread, have really learned something from watching people do this shit on the internet then go buy a 10.00 dollar juniper and apply 5.00 dollars worth of wire and take a picture three hours later of something really worthy of what you learned.

I haven't watched a single video and I'm going to do just that...just for myself.

who's up for the challenge?
 
Here you go Al,

found this growing through a styro cup sitting in this pot.
Was preparing it to do a feature for Alexandra, but
after it was defoliated, all it did was grow back smaller leaves
in the same spot.

Retesting the elogating branch / trrunk thickening bit.
Or in it goes colander and all, into the growing pit.
About a year old or so.
Grow and clip, I just need 2 years.
Good Day
Anthony

And no I am - not - trying to piss you off.
No wire down here.

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Saddler,

what is killing most of these folk is ------- dedication

It takes 3 to 5 years to get a tree / shrub LUSH.
I am not talking about wires or pruning.
Just getting healthy to prune or wire,

It takes 3 to 10 years to get the Design part.

The objective is simple ----------- It must please the eye.

All of this for a plant.
We also suggest to some to keep their mallsai healthy
and often never see these folk again.
So - Dedication
Good Day
Anthony
Dedication is something I have. With each phase of bonsai, as I call them, my dedication has only deepened. At first I just wanted grow something more rewarding then a house plant but didn’t have a vegetable garden. After spending the first year or two learning what a bonsai is and isn’t I was more then intrigued. The next year or two was learning what goes into making a great tree. Then came the great death. I lost all my most expensive stock do to weather conditions combined with inexperience. I lost a couple thousand dollars worth of trees. It was a tough pill to swallow. I only kept the rest of my crappy big box trees alive out of guilt that summer. It was the next summer when my wife asked why I’m not playing with trees anymore I decided I had to make a decision. Taking my wife’s question as a backing of the hobby (it probably wasn’t lol) I decided to make a commitment. My focus went into getting trunks that were worth putting effort into for the next couple years. Now I have trunks and am moving onto branch placement and structure on a few. Along the way I feel like I have learnt a lot more then how to keep trees alive. With each tree I grow branches out on think I am growing out my artistic side ever so slightly and more again with each phase.

I think artistry can be learned. Maybe I’m wrong. I won’t know until I have a tree that is show worthy I have built from the trunk out. My end goal is to grow an award winning tree before I die. If I don’t I have failed.
 
Bought a couple victims. They were such cute fuzz balls I decided to buy two. That way I can sell each for 25 when I’m done and make a quick 35. Each one is just a little larger than a softball. You don’t get much anymore!!!
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Give me a couple days. I got stuff to do tonight but maybe Thursday I can get one done after work. It's so damn hot I don't feel like working on wire that I can't even pick up!!!
 
Give me a couple days. I got stuff to do tonight but maybe Thursday I can get one done after work. It's so damn hot I don't feel like working on wire that I can't even pick up!!!
Put your wire in water. It’s what I do with my cooking tools when they too hot to hold. And dipping your hand into water helps cool you off a bit.
 
Put your wire in water. It’s what I do with my cooking tools when they too hot to hold. And dipping your hand into water helps cool you off a bit.
Maybe I could put fertilizer in the water and kill two birds with one stone. Y’all owe me $.50 for that
 
Maybe I could put fertilizer in the water and kill two birds with one stone. Y’all owe me $.50 for that
I would probably be run out of town if I put my cooking tools in fertilized water HaHa! You can send the bill for that tip with the 50 cent payment for my tip.
 
I would probably be run out of town if I put my cooking tools in fertilized water HaHa! You can send the bill for that tip with the 50 cent payment for my tip.
Touche!
 
Bought a couple victims. They were such cute fuzz balls I decided to buy two. That way I can sell each for 25 when I’m done and make a quick 35. Each one is just a little larger than a softball. You don’t get much anymore!!!
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So, your two fuzzy balls got me thinking about something that has had me in a bit of a quandary. I have a little procumbens not much bigger than these two but it is in a bonsai pot. It's not much of a tree really but it has some meaning to me and possibly even you that I'll explain another time. Anyway, there's a branch I have wired with some pretty heavy wire so I could get it placed where I want it. However, the branch is too thick to bend with just the wire. Seeing your two balls brought me back to when I first styled the tree 4 years ago. Then, BINGO it hit me, I don't need to bend the branch. All I need to do is reposition the tree in the pot and adjust all the other branches around it. So thanks for showing us your little fuzzy balls, I think.
 
So, your two fuzzy balls got me thinking about something that has had me in a bit of a quandary. I have a little procumbens not much bigger than these two but it is in a bonsai pot. It's not much of a tree really but it has some meaning to me and possibly even you that I'll explain another time. Anyway, there's a branch I have wired with some pretty heavy wire so I could get it placed where I want it. However, the branch is too thick to bend with just the wire. Seeing your two balls brought me back to when I first styled the tree 4 years ago. Then, BINGO it hit me, I don't need to bend the branch. All I need to do is reposition the tree in the pot and adjust all the other branches around it. So thanks for showing us your little fuzzy balls, I think.
Please show this when you can.
 
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