Help me choose and why you would pick it

Agree with @JudyB . If the nebari and lower portion need a lot of work, it may be best to start with a younger tree that has good nebari and an interesting first section. Trident grow quickly and are relatively easy to develop with a bit of work each year during development.
 
It depends what your end goal is. Think of these as starter material. You'll need to do extensive rootwork on all of them (its not hard to do, but its better to do it early) and likely will need to chop all of them. Where you chop is dependent on your goals. Are these worth however much they cost - 4 or more years of your life to get that thickness for the first section of trunk?
 
This is the age-old question of what to do with field grown trees. These are likely "reasonably" priced and will give you a head start on girth of lower trunk. As others have pointed out, the roots on these will likely need substantial work for that nice radial nebari and decisions will need to be made as far as taper and movement are concerned, as these trees don't have much of either. There are really no right answers here and everyone will have a different approach (and some would pass on these altogether).
 
Thanks for the replies. I am new to this but pretty much what's has been said is about what I was thinking. Thought I would ask some of you that have been doing it for a while.
 
Thought I would ask some of you that have been doing it for a while.
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Here are some pictures of trident maples

In general, there is movement/bend and or a branch within the first 2-4" from the soil line, which your options don't really have. If the roots are very interesting, I might consider the 3rd image that you posted because it has many back buds that you can potentially cut back to and/or use as sacrifice branches to develop some flare and contribute to overall nebari development. I would even consider moving towards a shohin design out of this material -- I attached 2 pictures of japanese maple shohin for inspiration, but you can do the same with trident. These were thick trunks that were chopped back and developed as chunky-based shohin. That said, your 4 options have very large leaves for a trident maple and might not be ideal for shohin or even larger designs for that matter. Based on the roots of the 4th image, I suspect these will all have very bad roots to work with and you would literally be better off starting with a cutting. Tridents grow quickly, and especially where you are in Georgia you will catch up to material like this and surpass it in just a few years.
 

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Here are some pictures of trident maples

In general, there is movement/bend and or a branch within the first 2-4" from the soil line, which your options don't really have. If the roots are very interesting, I might consider the 3rd image that you posted because it has many back buds that you can potentially cut back to and/or use as sacrifice branches to develop some flare and contribute to overall nebari development. I would even consider moving towards a shohin design out of this material -- I attached 2 pictures of japanese maple shohin for inspiration, but you can do the same with trident. These were thick trunks that were chopped back and developed as chunky-based shohin. That said, your 4 options have very large leaves for a trident maple and might not be ideal for shohin or even larger designs for that matter. Based on the roots of the 4th image, I suspect these will all have very bad roots to work with and you would literally be better off starting with a cutting. Tridents grow quickly, and especially where you are in Georgia you will catch up to material like this and surpass it in just a few years.
I completely agree with Derek! If the roots are interesting, it may be worth chopping back hard and low on the trunk. Otherwise air layering is the only other feasible option. I started with similar material on this trident and made a great sumo shohin out of the top.

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Bill V has a number of large trident maples (and some Japanese maples as well) that have pretty straight trunks, but they are fabulous trees. So the straight trunks aren't necessarily a problem (depending on your taste, what style you are after, etc). However, it will probably be a long term process to develop a good base (might require ground layering if the current roots are really bad) and also to build in taper. If you have access to Bill's book (Classical Bonsai Art), take a look at some of his trees. A couple can be seen in this video that is available on facebook (you don't need an account):

 
I would go with the last tree in the set. The reason is because you can see the start of a root base and most likely the rest of the roots are pretty close to that surface structural root to the right.
 
I would go with the last tree in the set. The reason is because you can see the start of a root base and most likely the rest of the roots are pretty close to that surface structural root to the right. And it has the best root flare, the other trees probably have roots all over the dam place needing root grafting to make a solid tree. You would probably have to root graft on any of that field grown stuff because if it had a nice Is root spread the price would probably be triple what the are asking for those trees
 
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