Emanon
Mame
OK, so I just read through 8 pages of the forum thread "Collecting. With or without permission?" ( https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/collecting-with-or-without-permission.2150/ ). I wanted to ask a question that could be categorized as just the opposite question. (I'm not sure about proper protocol but I decided to just start a separate forum thread instead of interjecting my question there...)
Does anyone have any thoughts on guerrilla gardening, or planting extra, undesirable trees on others' property (both private and/or public land)? Do you usually get permission before doing so? For me, this is the far stronger temptation than the urge to collect. And, for some reason, the temptation is even stronger when I'm moving away from a particular area for good. I could come back to this area with my grandchildren, pull out my map, and show them the Giant Sequoia that I planted before their parents were born (and then they could show the same tree to their grandchildren, etc.) How would a Bald Cypress do 50. 100, 200 years from now in this nearby coastal and inland lagoon habitat on the Pacific Coast in California where I've never seen a Bald Cypress but I know a Bald Cypress would absolutely survive and possibly thrive...? Obviously this urge is as old as humankind. It's why rulers build monuments to themselves and it's why modern plutocrats pay to have their names put on hospitals/university buildings and schools, etc. It's the ultimately futile, but seductive, attempt to leave your your mark on a world where nothing is forever and will itself entirely cease to exist someday. It's that urge to blow and cause a butterfly to flutter its wings faster causing unpredictable ripple effects far into the future...
But, obviously, it is precisely because the results are unpredictable that this temptation is not always acted upon. How would that Bald Cypress that you want to plant fit in with, and change, the surrounding ecology? That would be cool to witness on your trip back 50 years from now but ... the other side of it... some species are labeled "invasive" (by those who know) when introduced to certain locals (both non-native and native I'm presuming). So, the first question is: should we get permission from private landowners or government officials before we plant our discarded trees -- trees that are thriving but will most likely never make good bonsai... the uninteresting trees with no good lower branches on species that don't back-bud easily, etc. -- on their property? The next question then becomes: Do we have a responsibility to not interfere, even when permission from a landowner is given?
Does anyone have any thoughts on guerrilla gardening, or planting extra, undesirable trees on others' property (both private and/or public land)? Do you usually get permission before doing so? For me, this is the far stronger temptation than the urge to collect. And, for some reason, the temptation is even stronger when I'm moving away from a particular area for good. I could come back to this area with my grandchildren, pull out my map, and show them the Giant Sequoia that I planted before their parents were born (and then they could show the same tree to their grandchildren, etc.) How would a Bald Cypress do 50. 100, 200 years from now in this nearby coastal and inland lagoon habitat on the Pacific Coast in California where I've never seen a Bald Cypress but I know a Bald Cypress would absolutely survive and possibly thrive...? Obviously this urge is as old as humankind. It's why rulers build monuments to themselves and it's why modern plutocrats pay to have their names put on hospitals/university buildings and schools, etc. It's the ultimately futile, but seductive, attempt to leave your your mark on a world where nothing is forever and will itself entirely cease to exist someday. It's that urge to blow and cause a butterfly to flutter its wings faster causing unpredictable ripple effects far into the future...
But, obviously, it is precisely because the results are unpredictable that this temptation is not always acted upon. How would that Bald Cypress that you want to plant fit in with, and change, the surrounding ecology? That would be cool to witness on your trip back 50 years from now but ... the other side of it... some species are labeled "invasive" (by those who know) when introduced to certain locals (both non-native and native I'm presuming). So, the first question is: should we get permission from private landowners or government officials before we plant our discarded trees -- trees that are thriving but will most likely never make good bonsai... the uninteresting trees with no good lower branches on species that don't back-bud easily, etc. -- on their property? The next question then becomes: Do we have a responsibility to not interfere, even when permission from a landowner is given?
