Cool physics in my cold frame

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This is the second winter of my bonsai fascination and the first year I'm over-wintering outside. I built a small frame buried about 10 inches into the ground in a sheltered portion of my yard, and being an engineer, I had to instrument the trees with some temperature monitors! We had a cold night recently with a low of 16deg F air temp. As the air temp was falling, I was watching the soil temp fall as well, albeit much slower. But when the soil got to 32deg F, it stopped falling! Checking the data today, I saw that the soil temp more or less flattened for the three days that we've had nightly temps drop into the teens or low 20's. Here is a plot of the data, the blue line is air temp about 18inches above the ground and the orange line is soil temp of a JM in a gallon nursery container, with the temperature in degrees F on the right axis.

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I've marked two areas of interest in the plot.

Region 1:
This shows daily temperatures from December 27th to early morning December 30th. You can see that the soil temperature tracks air temperature pretty closely, but with the peaks smoothed out. This is the insulative effect of the mulch around the pots in effect. Insulation doesn't necessarily keep things warm, what it does is reduce the heat flux in and out of what is insulated. The result in this case is that the soil temperature changes slower than the air temperature, effectively reducing the extremes on both the hot and cold side.

Region 2:
This is a much more interesting series of days. You can see that the effect of the insulation during the night of the 30th, with soil temp dropping but at a much slower rate than the air temp. But as the soil temp nears 32 degrees, suddenly it stops dropping nearly as fast. If the only effect was insulation, I would expect the temp to continue to drop and to see it increase very quickly once the air temp rose above the soil temp on January 1st. Heating from the ground is also surely contributing as well, but the sudden flattening of soil temp slope at exactly the freezing point of water points me into a different direction. My theory is that the main contributing factor is the latent heat of fusion of the water in the soil.

Water has an amazing effect where it releases a large amount of energy in the form of heat when it experiences phase changes, such as steam condensing into liquid water or water freezing into ice. For the three days shown here, the water content of the soil is in the slow process of freezing and thawing without every becoming fully frozen or thawed. Here's a picture describing the latent heat effect in water. This is the same mechanism that allows trees to cool their foliage on hot days through transpiration of water and it's evaporation.

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Other than just being a cool physical phenomenon that I noticed while nerding out about my weather station data, this also shows the importance of making sure your trees don't dry out during the winter. Dry soil will not have the same phase change buffering effect that water can provide and will be much more prone to sudden drops far below freezing.

Ok rambling done, thanks for attending my lecture! I'll be sure to post more weird things I notice over the winter. Especially hoping to see the soil temp continue to drop after being fully frozen and reflect the trend of the latent heat diagram when it inevitably gets sub-zero this winter.
 
I love this. Nice data and a great way to explain the various traditions of overwintering. I wonder how much it would change if there's a big difference to pots that are on the ground but not mulched in
 
This is the second winter of my bonsai fascination and the first year I'm over-wintering outside. I built a small frame buried about 10 inches into the ground in a sheltered portion of my yard, and being an engineer, I had to instrument the trees with some temperature monitors! We had a cold night recently with a low of 16deg F air temp. As the air temp was falling, I was watching the soil temp fall as well, albeit much slower. But when the soil got to 32deg F, it stopped falling! Checking the data today, I saw that the soil temp more or less flattened for the three days that we've had nightly temps drop into the teens or low 20's. Here is a plot of the data, the blue line is air temp about 18inches above the ground and the orange line is soil temp of a JM in a gallon nursery container, with the temperature in degrees F on the right axis.

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I've marked two areas of interest in the plot.

Region 1:
This shows daily temperatures from December 27th to early morning December 30th. You can see that the soil temperature tracks air temperature pretty closely, but with the peaks smoothed out. This is the insulative effect of the mulch around the pots in effect. Insulation doesn't necessarily keep things warm, what it does is reduce the heat flux in and out of what is insulated. The result in this case is that the soil temperature changes slower than the air temperature, effectively reducing the extremes on both the hot and cold side.

Region 2:
This is a much more interesting series of days. You can see that the effect of the insulation during the night of the 30th, with soil temp dropping but at a much slower rate than the air temp. But as the soil temp nears 32 degrees, suddenly it stops dropping nearly as fast. If the only effect was insulation, I would expect the temp to continue to drop and to see it increase very quickly once the air temp rose above the soil temp on January 1st. Heating from the ground is also surely contributing as well, but the sudden flattening of soil temp slope at exactly the freezing point of water points me into a different direction. My theory is that the main contributing factor is the latent heat of fusion of the water in the soil.

Water has an amazing effect where it releases a large amount of energy in the form of heat when it experiences phase changes, such as steam condensing into liquid water or water freezing into ice. For the three days shown here, the water content of the soil is in the slow process of freezing and thawing without every becoming fully frozen or thawed. Here's a picture describing the latent heat effect in water. This is the same mechanism that allows trees to cool their foliage on hot days through transpiration of water and it's evaporation.

View attachment 579069


Other than just being a cool physical phenomenon that I noticed while nerding out about my weather station data, this also shows the importance of making sure your trees don't dry out during the winter. Dry soil will not have the same phase change buffering effect that water can provide and will be much more prone to sudden drops far below freezing.

Ok rambling done, thanks for attending my lecture! I'll be sure to post more weird things I notice over the winter. Especially hoping to see the soil temp continue to drop after being fully frozen and reflect the trend of the latent heat diagram when it inevitably gets sub-zero this winter.
Thanks. I caught on to this stuff years ago. It boils down to mulch and moisture being critical to overwintering trees. A side note--pray for snow, alot of snow. Deep snow cover (like over five inches) can add another safeguard against bitter cold.
 
Your observations here were basically what I saw several decades ago when I kept many of my trees on the concrete floor of an unattached garage in zone 6 MA. One year, I decided to use an indoor/outdoor min/max thermometer to monitor temps in there, and I placed the outdoor probe beneath a pot before mulching everything with wood chips and watering the mulch. By mid January, the temperatures in my yard were anywhere from -3 F to -7 F every morning, the temperature on top of the mulched pots was reading in the single digits, but the probe beneath the mulched pot had fallen to 32 F and stayed there for close to a month until mid February. The keys- placement on the floor (which is in full contact with the ground), and using a thick and heavily watered mulch cover- utilize the great thermal heat sink of the earth as well the fact that the temperature of the mulch and the soil in the pots can't drop below 32 F until all the water present has frozen.

Science for the win!

... and I love my weather station, too. I have the wifi enabled console on my night stand and an app on the smart phone to follow all the weather parameters while i'm not at home. It can give you much more pertinent info for your specific micro-climate than the local tv stations forecast.
 
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This is fascinating! I love that this hobby is a gateway drug to learning about the natural world and sciences.

Thank you for sharing your findings and efforts. Well written.
 
This is fascinating! I love that this hobby is a gateway drug to learning about the natural world and sciences.

Thank you for sharing your findings and efforts. Well written.
Not only have I learned a bit about thermodynamics and a lot about horticulture but I’ve also picked up a wider appreciation of Asian art forms. Don’t ask me about shin hanga woodblock prints okimono kakemono or sword furniture. It expensive 😄
 
Ive also seen this in my cold frame. Even when I have it covered for a while, I have been surprised to open it up and find it less dried out than I thought it would be.
 
There's really nothing like seeing these effects in person to make the knowledge sink in! Can read on the forum all day long about placing pots on ground and the insulation effects of snow, but you don't really trust it until you see your trees safe and sound tucked in under a layer of snow.

This winter has been pretty dry for us though, so I'm just hoping everything works out and we have a few inches when the big cold snap hits.

I do think I'm going to order some more temp probes, really curious about actual ground temp as well as soil temp in an established Ponderosa I have that is just wintering on the ground with some mulch and wind protection.
 
Over the rest of January I was able to observe three more effects in the cold frame. On January 12th the soil in my monitored pot finally froze solid. This occurred after about a week of very cold days where the 6 of the 7 daily highs were below freezing or just a few degrees above. The plotted data shows that there is now daily temperature variations while the soil was frozen, but the magnitude is still very small. I believe this is due to the large thermal mass of the ice helping to reduce temperature variation even though it was not helped with the latent heat of freezing. The minimum temp I saw during this time was 30.1F. On January 15th we had three days where the daily high was significantly above freezing and allowed a small portion of the soil to start to thaw, marking the end of the "frozen solid" region.

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On January 17th the extremely cold weather started moving in. It started snowing early in the evening, providing about 3inches of insulation as the air temp fell below freezing. I shoveled more snow on top the next day, providing an estimated 7 inches of insulation. You can see that the temperature of the soil actually increased when the air temperatures fell, a direct result of the snow insulation allowing the heat of the earth to contribute to the soil temperature. The next three days contained the coldest we've seen this year, peaking at -6F, but the soil temperature remained extremely stable at just above 32F. In fact, the temperature only varied by about 0.5F for the next 16 days!
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Over the last few days we've had warm weather, with a crazy peak of 70F yesterday. Here we see the soil finally fully thaw, marking the end to a whopping 29 days with only 2.8F variation! This has given me a tremendous amount of confidence that my trees can survive in my climate and that this winter weathering technique will work well. Now we wait and see when they start to break dormancy! I would love if I can delay it until the end of April, as we often have late spring storms with freezes into May.

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I keep many of my trees basically as you do, outside and on the ground up against my house, mulched and covered with snow when available. I also keep a fair number of trees on benches in my cold room where I try to keep the temps in the mid to low 30's F. Anyway, most winters, it barely falls below 32 F in there, but with the recent cold snap, it was falling into the 20's. The coldest morning was 27 F. Anyway, it's odd but likely that the roots of the trees in the cold room were likely colder than those of my trees wintered outside.
 
I keep many of my trees basically as you do, outside and on the ground up against my house, mulched and covered with snow when available. I also keep a fair number of trees on benches in my cold room where I try to keep the temps in the mid to low 30's F. Anyway, most winters, it barely falls below 32 F in there, but with the recent cold snap, it was falling into the 20's. The coldest morning was 27 F. Anyway, it's odd but likely that the roots of the trees in the cold room were likely colder than those of my trees wintered outside.
I should have mentioned it was -5 F outside for two mornings and barely made it into the teens for three straight days during the cold snap.
 
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