Clorylopsis spicate or spiked winterhazel help.

[MMJNICE]

I had been looking for a winterhazel for a very long time, every since I heard a pod cast about the species for bonsai from a bonsai professional out west. I forgot his name but he's a younger guy that is kinda chunky. I finally found one in a bonsai nursery in Kentucky but it was very small, sickly looking and the price for the tiny seedling was 70 dollars. She had three and did not me pick which one she would sell me. She said she was lucky to find it and acted like I should be grateful she would allow me to have the privilege to buy it. My better common sense wouldn't let me buy it for a price that I thought was rediculous at the time. Fast forward two months and I found one and one only left for sell on etsy form a seller I've used before for 100 dollars with shipping. Since i had no other option I bought the tree sight unseen with my fingers crossed. The other tree i bought from this seller was pretty big so I was hoping. After almost 4 months and multiple messages and complaints from me to the seller, the tree finally arrived. Im very happy with the tree as it is probably 4 times as old a 4 times bigger then the seedling in Kentucky but as you can see their are some seriously major faults when it comes to bonsai. Any other person would probably be ecstatic with the size and health of the tree. I also noticed the leaves where quite large with nice large flower buds or leaf buds at the base of every nod. So with the three main trunks emerging from the same point about an inch from the soil line what in the hell should I do? I don't normally have that much of a problem taking action with a direction about where a tree should go but this one has me torn. Should I remove two of the trunks? Should I remove just one trunk and make a double trunk? Should I airlayer the two trunks that I don't want to use because the material is so hard to come by? Should I wait till spring and just take cuttings from the two trunks im not going to use? Which trunk should I cut the right trunk left trunk or center. I like the center trunk the best and the right trunk second best but then I will have two large wounds on both sides if i use the center trunk ..I'm not sure if this tree heals well. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. For younger raw material this was pretty expensive and who knows if I will find another anytime soon ,so im being extra cautious about making the wrong decision with this on.

 

[coh]

Spike winterhazel is a beautiful plant, especially in spring with those fragrant flower clusters. I'm not going to offer styling advice but I will say - if you want to save any of the larger branches or subtrunks (for yard plants, to make a forest, whatever), I don't know how easy they are to root from cuttings. However, I have had good success with air layering.

 

[KateM]

I have no advice, but here is a thread @ABCarve has a beautiful example and probably can answer a lot of questions.
Thread 'Winter Hazel' https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/winter-hazel.37773/

 

[KateM]

Can't get the link to post correctly, but it you do a search for winter Hazel, titles only and member ABCarve it comes up.

 

[RJG2]

Can't get the link to post correctly, but it you do a search for winter Hazel, titles only and member ABCarve it comes up.

Thread 'Winter Hazel'

Mar 29, 2019

This is a tree a pal gave to me. He bought it as prebonsai and put in the ground for a few years. When he dug it up to pot it he discovered, to his dismay the trunk was completely hollow. It was chopped and put back into ground to be an ornamental in the garden. It only put out very leggy shoots and he thought it would take too long to turn into anything. In the spring of 2017 I took it off his hands and sorted through all leggy growth and kept 3. The first two growing seasons I thought the hollowed trunk was the feature to present as a front, but this year I've changed to the opposite...

• ABCarve
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• Forum: Flowering

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[SouthernMaple]

I had been looking for a winterhazel for a very long time, every since I heard a pod cast about the species for bonsai from a bonsai professional out west. I forgot his name but he's a younger guy that is kinda chunky. I finally found one in a bonsai nursery in Kentucky but it was very small, sickly looking and the price for the tiny seedling was 70 dollars. She had three and did not me pick which one she would sell me. She said she was lucky to find it and acted like I should be grateful she would allow me to have the privilege to buy it. My better common sense wouldn't let me buy it for a price that I thought was rediculous at the time. Fast forward two months and I found one and one only left for sell on etsy form a seller I've used before for 100 dollars with shipping. Since i had no other option I bought the tree sight unseen with my fingers crossed. The other tree i bought from this seller was pretty big so I was hoping. After almost 4 months and multiple messages and complaints from me to the seller, the tree finally arrived. Im very happy with the tree as it is probably 4 times as old a 4 times bigger then the seedling in Kentucky but as you can see their are some seriously major faults when it comes to bonsai. Any other person would probably be ecstatic with the size and health of the tree. I also noticed the leaves where quite large with nice large flower buds or leaf buds at the base of every nod. So with the three main trunks emerging from the same point about an inch from the soil line what in the hell should I do? I don't normally have that much of a problem taking action with a direction about where a tree should go but this one has me torn. Should I remove two of the trunks? Should I remove just one trunk and make a double trunk? Should I airlayer the two trunks that I don't want to use because the material is so hard to come by? Should I wait till spring and just take cuttings from the two trunks im not going to use? Which trunk should I cut the right trunk left trunk or center. I like the center trunk the best and the right trunk second best but then I will have two large wounds on both sides if i use the center trunk ..I'm not sure if this tree heals well. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. For younger raw material this was pretty expensive and who knows if I will find another anytime soon ,so im being extra cautious about making the wrong decision with this on.View attachment 621190View attachment 621191View attachment 621192View attachment 621193

they are super easy to propagate just take cuttings in early spring before the flowers pop. Air layering is super easy too. Down here in NC and Georgia they are everywhere, every nursery has them, the only thing about them that sucks for bonsai is that they have a very short life for a bonsai.

 

[MMJNICE]

they are super easy to propagate just take cuttings in early spring before the flowers pop. Air layering is super easy too. Down here in NC and Georgia they are everywhere, every nursery has them, the only thing about them that sucks for bonsai is that they have a very short life for a bonsai.

They are everywhere?? Wow really because here in Ohio I've never seen one at a nursery or landscape for that matter.. seems that someone could make a killing in supplying the bonsai community with starter material.

 

[MMJNICE]

Thread 'Winter Hazel'

Mar 29, 2019

This is a tree a pal gave to me. He bought it as prebonsai and put in the ground for a few years. When he dug it up to pot it he discovered, to his dismay the trunk was completely hollow. It was chopped and put back into ground to be an ornamental in the garden. It only put out very leggy shoots and he thought it would take too long to turn into anything. In the spring of 2017 I took it off his hands and sorted through all leggy growth and kept 3. The first two growing seasons I thought the hollowed trunk was the feature to present as a front, but this year I've changed to the opposite...

• ABCarve
• Replies: 94
• Forum: Flowering

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Thanks for the link but I have come across this thread before when I was looking for other examples of winter hazel. Really impressed with the quality of the tree.. something to try to aspire to emulate