Chinese Wisteria planted......

[Mr. Bonsai]

Hi y’all!

Last year around late March-early April I olanted a Chinese Wisteria. Due to the fact of the beautiful flowers it produces!
Here are a couple of pictures of when I first planted it.



I live Cental South Texas and the summers are brutal to say the least. But I have been watering it and applying Root Growth to it once a month (along with all the other young trees I’ve planted) and well now this is where its at, at its young life.



It has yet to bloom with flowers and I would like to know if anyone here knows more or less when I could expect to see it start to flowering?
Will it take ayear or two before it starts to flower?
When should I start trimming branches off of it?...to try and at least give it a start on shaping growth?

Thank y’all in advance for your thoughts, opinions, suggestions and recommendations.

 

[sorce]

Nice growth.

Welcome to Crazy!

Sorce

 

[Cadillactaste]

These are late mature bloomers. Look at the link below...click on the tag, and it will direct you to information that will say anywhere between 7-15 years old to bloom.

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[Shibui]

How long depends on whether it is a seedling or a cutting.
Seedlings need to mature before flowering - 7-20 years is not uncommon.
Cuttings are already from mature plant and can flower in a year or 2. I cannot see a swollen base on the trunk so I guess this one is cutting grown.
Fast growing can sometimes delay flowering as the tree puts lots of effort into vegetative growth and not into reproductive growth.
By mid autumn you can usually start to pick the difference between flower buds and growth buds. Flower buds (if there are any) will be near the base of the new shoots. You can prune the long runners back any time but leave at least 3 or 4 buds at the base each time. Pruning in winter is far easier because you can see where runners come from and which ones would be best to retain for a good shape.

 

[rockm]

All of the above is right. Seedlings can take a decade to begin flowering. Cuttings can take only a couple of years.

That said, the trunk on this is far from being ready for much of any kind of bonsai treatment, particularly for flowers. Wisteria needs to have a mostly substantial trunk to support all those flowers and growth. Leaves don't reduce, flower racemes can be a foot long...All that will probably weigh enough to bend the trunk as it is now to the ground. Let it alone for a few years. Watch the runners--longer runners can be wrapped in loose knots to slow them down and prevent this plant from taking over the yard.

Stake it up, preferably with some kind of lateral scaffolding that allows it to grow out and not up. This plant is only getting its feet under it as far as growth goes. A year in the ground is really not long. It will push roots and shoots along the ground, keep an eye on those, they can become fugitive plants all on their own and can infest your neighbors' yards...

 

[Shibui]

Original post is not clear. Is this intended as a landscape specimen or are you ground growing something for bonsai?
In either case @rockm is correct about some support. The trunk appears to have thickened a lot but I am still surprised it is still straight up with all that growth. Wisteria trunk is generally not very strong.

 

[ConorDash]

Yes the support..

I have a few from seed that I have been growing for the past few years now. Unsurprisingly, the one in the ground is going a lot faster however, now I have put in place a trellis.. OH BOY that thing be growing.
I believe if a wisteria has something to hold on to, some kinda support to wrap round it will grow like crazy. Without the support, it slows the growing considerably.

Its a vine after all, remember. Its in its nature. Same applies to thickening of a trunk. It doesn't thicken much or faster, cos its a vine, its not designed to get its support from a trunk, it gets support from the things it grows up.

In Bonsai we want a trunk, hence why you don't see many good wisteria bonsai. But we can try ! Ill post back in 10-15 years with my results.

 

[Mr. Bonsai]

Original post is not clear. Is this intended as a landscape specimen or are you ground growing something for bonsai?
In either case @rockm is correct about some support. The trunk appears to have thickened a lot but I am still surprised it is still straight up with all that growth. Wisteria trunk is generally not very strong.

The young planted Blue Chinese Wisteria tree that I posted a picture of, is definitely not grown for bonsai purposes. It was planted for landscape purposes.

It was ordered and planted for it's beautiful flowering.

I just would like for it to grow and flower and use as a small tree in our backyard that's all. After reading much about Blue Chinese Wisteria trees I will trim it and maybe add shape to it by cutting branches, etc. this coming winter.

My goal is to try and get it to grow and form and bloom something like this........

 

[Mikecheck123]

The young planted Blue Chinese Wisteria tree that I posted a picture of, is definitely not grown for bonsai purposes. It was planted for landscape purposes.

It was ordered and planted for it's beautiful flowering.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think you got scammed. Wisteria is the easiest plant in the world to scam online because it takes so long to see what the flowers look like, and few even get that far! By the time you figure out that it's just a regular ol' landscaping wisteria with run of the mill flowers, it's years later and the seller is long gone.

The two pics you posted are definitely photoshopped. Which isn't an indicator of a reliable merchant.

 

[Mr. Bonsai]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think you got scammed. Wisteria is the easiest plant in the world to scam online because it takes so long to see what the flowers look like, and few even get that far! By the time you figure out that it's just a regular ol' landscaping wisteria with run of the mill flowers, it's years later and the seller is long gone.

The two pics you posted are definitely photoshopped. Which isn't an indicator of a reliable merchant.

LOL!!!......oh yea.....OK if you say so!...LOL!

I will take my chances...no worries only time will tell.

 

[Mikecheck123]

LOL!!!......oh yea.....OK if you say so!...LOL!

I will take my chances...no worries only time will tell.

Oh it looks like a very fine and vigorous plant. Just don't hold your breath for blue flowers.

 

[Mr. Bonsai]

Oh it looks like a very fine and vigorous plant. Just don't hold your breath for blue flowers.

LOL!... yea sure OK whatever..

I never stated that I was expecting it to grow exactly like those pictures...I said something similar.

LOL!.....didn’t know you were so prophetic.

 

[Mikecheck123]

LOL!... yea sure OK whatever..

I never stated that I was expecting it to grow exactly like those pictures...I said something similar.

LOL!.....didn’t know you were so prophetic.

Don't shoot the messenger. I hate scammers more than anything. So I say it not as criticism but as a way to warn others who might be enticed by those pictures.

And btw, how do you think I'm familiar with said scam anyway?

 

[Mr. Bonsai]

Don't shoot the messenger. I hate scammers more than anything. So I say it not as criticism but as a way to warn others who might be enticed by those pictures.

And btw, how do you think I'm familiar with said scam anyway?

LOL!....inspite of what’s currently going on in the world today....regardless of what color flowers it blooms..I’m not worried about it.....and that’s if it even blooms....its not the end of the world.

Though you seem more disturbed about it?...will this disturb or effect your everyday activities?... routine,?...won’t be able to sleep right?...eat?...etc....LOL!

 

[Mikecheck123]

LOL!....inspite of what’s currently going on in the world today....regardless of what color flowers it blooms..I’m not worried about it.....and that’s if it even blooms....its not the end of the world.

Though you seem more disturbed about it?...will this disturb or effect your everyday activities?... routine,?...won’t be able to sleep right?...eat?...etc....LOL!

Yes. When I see the plain white and purple flowers on my supposed "blue moon" wisteria, I imagine burning down things of the scammers responsible, and I think about how Amazon doesn't give one flying fuck about scammers, nor the rampant blue maples and other bonsai scams there, and it does make me angry that people in the world can suck so hard.

I'm glad you don't experience the same.

 

[Mr. Bonsai]

Yes. When I see the plain white and purple flowers on my supposed "blue moon" wisteria, I imagine burning down things of the scammers responsible, and I think about how Amazon doesn't give one flying fuck about scammers, nor the rampant blue maples and other bonsai scams there, and it does make me angry that people in the world can suck so hard.

I'm glad you don't experience the same.

LOL!....dude I don’t know what your trippin’ on but trip yourself out of this thread!...Lol!

Don’t got away mad...just go away!..LOL!!!!

 

[Mikecheck123]

Another weird thing to me is people who misinterpret free tips as criticism.

 

[fredman]

Another weird thing to me is people who misinterpret free tips as criticism.

I agree
@Mr. Bonsai you are misunderstanding the intentions....You're simply being handed a friendly helping hand (and patient) here....
My biggest wisteria I received from a very pissed off friend. He bought it from a reputable nursery 11 years ago. The label said it it's a white flowered wisteria. He had it fattening up in the ground (as a bonsai one day) when it flowered...all bright and beautiful blue. Man that guy was fuming. He begged me to please just take it away from him

 

[ConorDash]

I agree
@Mr. Bonsai you are misunderstanding the intentions....You're simply being handed a friendly helping hand (and patient) here....
My biggest wisteria I received from a very pissed off friend. He bought it from a reputable nursery 11 years ago. The label said it it's a white flowered wisteria. He had it fattening up in the ground (as a bonsai one day) when it flowered...all bright and beautiful blue. Man that guy was fuming. He begged me to please just take it away from him

Wow seems an over reaction to a colour change lol.

Also, when you say blue, its the chinese wisteria, purple kinda blue, right?

Those pics above, have been altered. Are you in agreement with that Fredman?

 

[fredman]

Wow seems an over reaction to a colour change lol.

Also, when you say blue, its the chinese wisteria, purple kinda blue, right?

Those pics above, have been altered. Are you in agreement with that Fredman?

Yep the chinese wisteria. It coils over itself anticlockwise. Colour is definitely a deeper...slight purplish blue.
The baby blue from the trees above is not from a wisteria i've ever seen. It's either fake or bad colouring from the photo itself...