Thanks for the reply. Yeah I watched a video and the guy took 12 footer down to 12 inch! LoL so I get it I'll let it go for a year and then start. Learning a lot from these groups and videos. Have 2 junipers 3 Bald Cypress, and an Italian Stone Pine. Also starting a frangypangy\plumeria blood red! I've always loved Bonsai and now that I don't work it seems I have the time. It teaches patients! LoL I'm an Aquarius so I tend to over water, so now that I'm using the proper growing media it's much better. Still have to fight the urge. LoL got Cypress trees to help with watering.