TheSteve
Chumono
I don't think I've ever seen a handheld one that doesn't. My miter saw doesn't lay over either, but I've used ones that do and it's sweet. Quick and done.....
Big larch thread grafts
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Alex DeRuiter
Chumono
Yeah, I'm assuming at this point it'd be done most easily with a circular saw...which conveniently is something I don't have. lol -- I'll be making some boxes considerably smaller than Crust's, so I think I should be able to do this easily with my miter saw...but for future projects I'll need to invest in a decent circular saw.
Anyway, sorry to go off on a tangent.
Anyway, sorry to go off on a tangent.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
If you plan on getting into this you should consider what is called a chop saw. It is a circular saw mounted on an assemble that allows you to chop off pieces of wood with the same dimensions repeatedly. The best ones are those that allow a compound miter cut and an extended arm that allows you to cut through boards larger than a two-by-four.
edprocoat
Masterpiece
I was reading the talk about saws and had to add that the lowly Jig Saw can be adjusted to cut at angles and they are very reasonable too. Although Mr. Wood is right, a chop saw is the best for doing this stuff easily as well as flawlessly.
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TheSteve
Chumono
Roughly how long does it take larch thread grafts to take? can it be done in a growing season or is it a longer term deal, I've never worked with larch but I may have to start soon
Bill S
Masterpiece
Steve it will depend on the fit between the branch and hole, and how vigorous the tree is, but about 2 years with a good growing tree, then grow the branch on to size, not a quick answer per se. Approach grafts w/ bigger branches for quicker branch addition. I think the thread graft is better graft for strength and asthetic reasons. That and it's easy to get it right where it is needed.
As to what saw, if you stack narrower boards you can use the smaller chop saws.
As to what saw, if you stack narrower boards you can use the smaller chop saws.
lordy
Omono
Chop saws have evolved into a kind of radial arm/chop saw. Sliding miter saw, for thicker and wider wood. Personally I would use a good old table saw. Actually I noticed the miters on the grow box too. Doubt if I would have expended the effort for such a container. Butt joint would do just fine.
Oh, and by the way, damned nice bark and nebari.
Oh, and by the way, damned nice bark and nebari.
Usually grafts take in one season. Sometimes extra time left on is helpful. Usually the grafted side shows a increase in diameter compared to donor side of thread, inarch or one point grafts. This is an indication that it has taken. I usually girdle the branch first. I do this the following year. I have found that everything has to be growing strong to be successful.
The reason for the 45 mitered joints was practical. I dadoed a slot in the lower part of the sides to retain a bottom panel and doing the cutting and assembly is easier and the dado doesn't show through the ends--and yes I have a shop with a slide saw set-up so mitered are a snap.
BrianBay9
Masterpiece
Update please? Were your grafts successful?
Jaberwky17
Shohin
Thanks for reviving this thread. I, too, would like to know how this graft has fared. I have a practical question about grafting larches. That hole in the trunk looks pretty tight against the grafted limb. Larch branches are so knobby, how do you get them to slip through such a tight fitting hole? Not like a maple or elm where the threaded limb can be very smooth and slim.
Big Larch Graft update
I weaned then cut off the daughter plants I inarched on this past growing season about mid spring. The grafts grew vigorously. Late summer I chopped the top and all the mother foliage off of the tree. The grafts picked up even more. This winter, probably soon, I will put wire on all the new branches and photograph it. Anything requiring more than gentle bending I will do later in spring but the wire will be there and ready. Success so far!
Below is a very bad green on green picture:
I weaned then cut off the daughter plants I inarched on this past growing season about mid spring. The grafts grew vigorously. Late summer I chopped the top and all the mother foliage off of the tree. The grafts picked up even more. This winter, probably soon, I will put wire on all the new branches and photograph it. Anything requiring more than gentle bending I will do later in spring but the wire will be there and ready. Success so far!
Below is a very bad green on green picture:
Giga
Masterpiece
Looks great!
mattspinniken
Omono
Really curious about this tree Crust. It looks like the thread grafts have done well, how did they do in 2015? Awesome material!
I am putting away today so I will take a bad pic of it--here is a pic of how it was last winter. This year I let it grow out to strengthen the grafted branches and get it in sync. I let it get too wild in its vigor and lost control and some of the budding got to far out and the branches not oriented well--but at least they are strong. This winter I will cut back to closer buds on the branches and RP in the spring and begin to refine it. I how my simultaneous hard cut-back and RP won't set its strength back too much. We shall see.
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JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
It's good to know that they were vigorous. Hope this winter isn't a hot one... Happy storage day, mine was yesterday!
mattspinniken
Omono
Wow! Thanks for posting, the thread grafts have really thickened up! Awesome transformation so far. After this thread I am inspired to some Larch thread grafts next spring on some trees without low branches.
Here is the most recent--as I am putting away. My intent was to really strengthen the grafts to assure they were ready for refinement and not weaken during the next phase which will be a difficult reduction RP---No pinching and fertilizer was the mode. The branches got terrifyingly aggressive though and I should have done more pruning and pinching to keep it at half speed. Now I will have to really cut back and probably have to notch-bend the bigger branches I intend to keep. Taper in the upper section will take time I suppose--Anyway this coming spring will be a butchery for this tree.
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Giga
Masterpiece
Lots of twigs to choose from at least, looks great I must say.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Tis a hairy beastie, for sure.
