Zac, working with scale juniper is basically the same no matter what the specie or cultivar. It's a question of scale (proportion). Be it kishu or torulusa the growth patterns are the same but the scale is different. So if you recognize proportions in growth habits then it makes "ID" less important and the size of the tree to accommodate that scale (proportion) of the foliage to trunk size the important factor. Confusing enough? ;-) Try imaging Torulusa or Postrata on a shohin. The most beautiful, twisted, huge, fantastic trunk that you could imagine Just wouldn't work on that trunk for shohin. So, no matter what you don't know you have, you still have to work with scale (proportion)