2 out of 10 seeds germinate. What to do?

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Hi,

I have a question - What if 2 out of 10 seeds start sprouting in a pot where all 10 seeds were planted? Should one wait for others to sprout (some of them) and risk the 2 that sprouted? Or should one start moving the entire pot in light and start providing nutrients as soon as true leaves appear? One can also repot the 2 seeds but it's risky for a beginner to take out new seedlings from the pot without damaging them. If these were in peat pellets, the answer would be obvious to move the pellets where seeds sprouted and keep others in their current state for few weeks.

Any thoughts?

Thank You!!
 
Put it in good light and keep moist.
What kind of seeds?
 
Put it in good light and keep moist.
What kind of seeds?
Yes, but put the entire pot in good light? [FYI - I am primarily using Grow Light as I live in an apartment without south facing window]. Some are Flame Tree seeds, and some others are mixed with no name provided as they were extras in the kits I received.

Thank You for all the help 🙏
 
Best to start with the entire pot under light...possibly a humidity dome too.

Some plants need light to turn on chlorophyll production. Otherwise they grow pale and scraggly. Some species require light to germinate at all. If the seeds are planted at an appropriate depth for the species in a light soil, they will germinate just fine under lights...well, provided they have received the appropriate pre-treatment for the spiecies...
 
Best to start with the entire pot under light...possibly a humidity dome too.

Some plants need light to turn on chlorophyll production. Otherwise they grow pale and scraggly. Some species require light to germinate at all. If the seeds are planted at an appropriate depth for the species in a light soil, they will germinate just fine under lights...well, provided they have received the appropriate pre-treatment for the spiecies...
Thank You 🙏. What do you mean by appropriate pretreatment if you don't mind me asking? Thank You once again 🙏
 
Some seeds need for be kept cold for a certain period of time. Google "xxxxx seed stratification" (xxxx being the type of plant), and you'll be able to easily find if it is required.

Scarification (soaking in water 24 hrs) seems to help germination rates with many tree seeds.
 
If by Flame tree you mean Flamboyant they need to be sanded, they have a hard shell that doesnt allow the water to penetrate them so you have to sand the exterior coat
 
There is no problem moving ungerminated seeds to light or to start fertilizing. Viable seeds will still germinate despite either of these.
Some hard seed species like Delonyx have variable germination. Some grow immediately while some take much longer to start and may continue to sprout for up to a year. Pre-treatment of seeds helps overcome this.
I know you are a novice at growing plants but it seems you are making this unnecessarily complicated. Seeds have been germinating and surviving in forests for millions of years without anyone worrying about minute details. Just let them do their thing.
 
Thank You 🙏. What do you mean by appropriate pretreatment if you don't mind me asking? Thank You once again 🙏

As the others mentioned: some species need some pre-treatment to break dormancy. In cold winter areas, many trees drop their seeds in the fall. If those were to germinate immediately, winter could kill the tender seedlings. Instead, some species have developed inhibitors that prevent the seed from germinating in the fall. The cold winter weather...or early spring rains..."break" the inhibitor so the seed starts to germinate at a more ideal time. The inhibitor can be something as simple as a shell that cracks in the cold or an oil that washes away in the spring rains. Some are more complex and need something like stomach acid to dissolve a hard shell.

In nature in the tree's natural environment...nature will do its thing. For us trying to beat nature to germinate seeds on demand...we have to play games. My wife laughs at me when I put seeds in a damp napkin in a ziplock bag and toss them in the bottom of the regrifegator for a few weeks :D I do that to fake a winter to either germinate seeds at a time more right for me...or to protect them from squirrels!!!

Some seeds get ingested and need a stomach acid to erode a hard shell...or they may need several years of winters to break a hard shell down (paper bark maples often need 2 winters or more to break their shell down enough to break dormancy). We can sometimes "cheat" mother nature there by sanding or clipping the hard shell to allow water through to wake the seed up. My process for germinating baobab trees is to first sand the hard shell down to the live seed then soak for 24 hours in hot water. This expands the seed greatly...usually like 3-4x it's starting size! Then I can carefully peel the rest of the hard shell off and put the now exposed seed on a damp cloth until I see root extension. Only then do I put the seed in seedling soil. I have to do that because, in my environment, nature would kill the seed 99.9% of the time :( This is why people say "grow native"...let your local Mother Nature help you :)

You can google what pre-treatment is typical for the species your trying to germinate. Google things like "scarification" or "stratification" to understand more...they are both different processes. Some seeds need one or the other or even both to force.

Now, having said all that, you might want to consider trying some "trivial" species to get some basics down. If you have what you have because it was a gift and other wise you wouldn't care...dive in and have fun with it! But be prepared for dissappointment...focus on enjoying the process regardless of success. However, if you really want to learn and master a skill, you might gain some confidence by trying some "trivial" seeds first. Even watching simple garden seeds like beans...one of the absolute easiest seeds to germinate...can teach you a lot about your methods. If you want to stick with trees, look for american elms...the bigger leaf kinds that aren't as good for bonsai...most of them germinate readily. Most maples that drop seeds in the spring are easy to germinate. Anything that turns up in your yard that needs whacked by the lawnmower is a good candidate to try yourself. Get yourself some "feel goods" and then slowly start into the harder to germinate varieties.

My 10000 words worth anyway ;)
 
Also, you could have just received an old batch of seed and some of them are simply not viable anymore. In which case nothing you do will help them.
 
As the others mentioned: some species need some pre-treatment to break dormancy. In cold winter areas, many trees drop their seeds in the fall. If those were to germinate immediately, winter could kill the tender seedlings. Instead, some species have developed inhibitors that prevent the seed from germinating in the fall. The cold winter weather...or early spring rains..."break" the inhibitor so the seed starts to germinate at a more ideal time. The inhibitor can be something as simple as a shell that cracks in the cold or an oil that washes away in the spring rains. Some are more complex and need something like stomach acid to dissolve a hard shell.

In nature in the tree's natural environment...nature will do its thing. For us trying to beat nature to germinate seeds on demand...we have to play games. My wife laughs at me when I put seeds in a damp napkin in a ziplock bag and toss them in the bottom of the regrifegator for a few weeks :D I do that to fake a winter to either germinate seeds at a time more right for me...or to protect them from squirrels!!!

Some seeds get ingested and need a stomach acid to erode a hard shell...or they may need several years of winters to break a hard shell down (paper bark maples often need 2 winters or more to break their shell down enough to break dormancy). We can sometimes "cheat" mother nature there by sanding or clipping the hard shell to allow water through to wake the seed up. My process for germinating baobab trees is to first sand the hard shell down to the live seed then soak for 24 hours in hot water. This expands the seed greatly...usually like 3-4x it's starting size! Then I can carefully peel the rest of the hard shell off and put the now exposed seed on a damp cloth until I see root extension. Only then do I put the seed in seedling soil. I have to do that because, in my environment, nature would kill the seed 99.9% of the time :( This is why people say "grow native"...let your local Mother Nature help you :)

You can google what pre-treatment is typical for the species your trying to germinate. Google things like "scarification" or "stratification" to understand more...they are both different processes. Some seeds need one or the other or even both to force.

Now, having said all that, you might want to consider trying some "trivial" species to get some basics down. If you have what you have because it was a gift and other wise you wouldn't care...dive in and have fun with it! But be prepared for dissappointment...focus on enjoying the process regardless of success. However, if you really want to learn and master a skill, you might gain some confidence by trying some "trivial" seeds first. Even watching simple garden seeds like beans...one of the absolute easiest seeds to germinate...can teach you a lot about your methods. If you want to stick with trees, look for american elms...the bigger leaf kinds that aren't as good for bonsai...most of them germinate readily. Most maples that drop seeds in the spring are easy to germinate. Anything that turns up in your yard that needs whacked by the lawnmower is a good candidate to try yourself. Get yourself some "feel goods" and then slowly start into the harder to germinate varieties.

My 10000 words worth anyway ;)
Perfect Explanation!! Thank You. I have been doing scarcification; however not stratification. I figured spring is here so do scarcification and plant them. But now I know. Thank You very much 😊 🙏🙏🙏🙏
 
There is no problem moving ungerminated seeds to light or to start fertilizing. Viable seeds will still germinate despite either of these.
Some hard seed species like Delonyx have variable germination. Some grow immediately while some take much longer to start and may continue to sprout for up to a year. Pre-treatment of seeds helps overcome this.
I know you are a novice at growing plants but it seems you are making this unnecessarily complicated. Seeds have been germinating and surviving in forests for millions of years without anyone worrying about minute details. Just let them do their thing.
Got it!! Thank You very much 😊 🙏
 
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