Species ID

I found this pot in my raised beds where I grow vegetables. Im assuming I kept it because they looked interesting. I think someone gave this pot of seedlings to me and now I found them and wish to do something with them. There were fifteen, what look like second year seedlings. I put them into three groups of five and bent them up and planted as a clump. It will be planted into the ground if it ever stops raining enough to plant. It looks like some kind of shrub, I have no idea. Shoot some suggestions out there and I can match them up. Thanks..

It almost looks like some sort of azalea???? It does have hairy leaves.

Second the Azalea, could also be a species of rhododendron with tiny leaves like edgarianum or impeditum, but their leaves are even smaller than that I think.

Could it be one of your native oaks?

Pretty sure this is not Azalea, it reminds me of Cotoneaster.

I tried four plant ID apps and all of them come up with pyracantha as the most promising while American cranberry comes in a close second. I am pretty sure I got this from Ed Clark when I got the big trident stump. I remember him talking about cranberry and it being something he wanted to try also.

Looks more like a pyracantha to me. Grok 3 suggested maybe it was a satsuki, but I don’t see that.
Cranberry foliage seems to have a bit of a serration to their leaves.

Brian Van Fleet said:

Looks more like a pyracantha to me. Grok 3 suggested maybe it was a satsuki, but I don’t see that.
Cranberry foliage seems to have a bit of a serration to their leaves.

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Hope it is, they grow fast in the ground. I'll plant it out Tuesday, supposed to rain here thru Monday. In five years I should have a twisted up clump of fused wood.

....and.... there is no evidence of thorns beginning??

Smoke said:

Hope it is, they grow fast in the ground. I'll plant it out Tuesday, supposed to rain here thru Monday. In five years I should have a twisted up clump of fused wood.

....and.... there is no evidence of thorns beginning??

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Strange. My pyracantha didn’t develop thorns for a few years after I collected it. I’m not 100% sure that’s what you have, but it’s the closest guess I have.

My app says Scarlet Firethorn (Pyracantha coccinea), also known as Scarlet Pyracantha.

First guess, winterberry, second pyrcantha.

Good to see you here Mr Keppler

While looking around in the back yard, It dawns on me that I bought a bunch of seeds and planted all sorts of plants in small pots. I just found a pot full of seedling hornbeams, all pretty small but one of them was big as a pencil and 18 inches tall. I'm gonna give them the Keppler Kinc tomorrow! Hey Brian, The pyracantha in the diamond shaped checkerboard pot from Sharaku is a little plant that I dug in a parking lot wrapped around a sprinkler.

Mike Westervelt said:

First guess, winterberry, second pyrcantha.

Good to see you here Mr Keppler

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Winterberry is deciduous, and even in Fresno, would be bare at this time of the year.

My vote is for pyracantha of some sorts - evergreen and seeds readily available. FWIW for you naming geeks "Pyr" is Greek for "fire" (think pyromaniac) and "Acanthus" is Latin for "thorn". It is one of the few plants where the scientific name matches the common name

It is also great to see Al here

Bonsai Nut said:

Winterberry is deciduous, and even in Fresno, would be bare at this time of the year.

My vote is for pyracantha of some sorts - evergreen and seeds readily available. FWIW for you naming geeks "Pyr" is Greek for "fire" (think pyromaniac) and "Acanthus" is Latin for "thorn". It is one of the few plants where the scientific name matches the common name

It is also great to see Al here

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Funeral pyre

Smoke said:

While looking around in the back yard, It dawns on me that I bought a bunch of seeds and planted all sorts of plants in small pots. I just found a pot full of seedling hornbeams, all pretty small but one of them was big as a pencil and 18 inches tall. I'm gonna give them the Keppler Kinc tomorrow! Hey Brian, The pyracantha in the diamond shaped checkerboard pot from Sharaku is a little plant that I dug in a parking lot wrapped around a sprinkler.
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Amazing trees

Definitely pyracantha. Really like them. Lost 4 out of 5 that I had to fire blight last year.

Everything is looking good Al.

Brian Van Fleet said:

Everything is looking good Al.

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Thanks, I have had a rough three years. I bought a small bag of fertilizer from Lilly Miller as I didn't have much at this house after moving here 4 years ago. I put the stuff on the trees and in about three months I started noticing leaves turn brown, the whole branches and I had no idea what was going on. It was like I turned off the water and just let them all die. I called a friend, and we looked at them and he said it looked like they were burning up. We checked the bag and it was just triple 16. Then we looked at the ingredients and found that he was made from poultry poop. I shot off an email and was told that the formula had been tweaked during covid due to not being able to source the urea they had been using. I was complaining about not being able to source Gro Power on Facebook and one of my friends called me from Northern Cali to tell me that Ewing Sprinkler Supply should have it and I should have one in my town. Googled it and what do you know, I have one and called they carry Gro Power in 50 pound bags. If you go over to Bonsai Study Group my avatar shows me holding one such bag. I swore by that stuff. Well now its the next year 2023 and time for fertilizer. I sprinkle it on the trees and felt so good. Now with the first fertilizer incident I lost all my Shohin, all my pines, some big pyracanthas, 55 trees in all. Now the gro power is spread and I sit back and wait for the green explosion. Month later same thing, brown leaves and shriveling up of stems. I check the bag, son of a bitch, they switched the formula also and went to poultry poop. I burned up a total 67 trees. I was out of the bonsai business. The only thing I had left was the trees that were in very large pots, like the trident maple and my trees from Mojave. So 2024 a time to rebuild, buy more trees, about $4000.00 dollars worth. Repot everything, washing all the roots, and pitching all the old soil so it never gets used in a tree. So now I want to switch to Apex fertilizer. Ed Clark swears by it and after being a commercial maple grower for fifty years he knows his business. My problem, I can't source it. So.....I call Simplot, they make Apex. Besides Apex is unsightly blue prills that look stupid on the surface. I tell them my problem and he tells be what I need. I need Best fertilizer, triple 15, its a mixture of fertilizers some fast release and some coated prills that are slow release. Just what I want, all different colors of brown that disappear on the soil surface. Wish me luck, I start with this stuff next month. 50 pound bag is $140.00.

I thought it was definitely Foemina.

That stinks, sorry to hear man. What you have sitting on the benches does look good. A few familiar ones made it through.