Raw Itoigawa Juniper from the ground

Nybonsai12

Masterpiece
Messages
4,022
Reaction score
8,623
Location
NY
USDA Zone
7b
I bought this Itoigawa years back when it was quite small and put it in the ground. I think it was about the thickness of a marker in a one gallon container when I received it. Buying large developed material can get expensive, so it doesn't hurt to buy smaller stuff and plant out each year and forget about it. After some years the rewards will start to come in. I'm trying to document things better so although this isn't a bonsai yet, i'd like to track it's journey here.

I'd like this one to be bigger but I have other Itoigawas and kishus growing out in the ground so I picked this one to start developing. I didn't know much about junipers when I planted out and I know only slightly more than that now. So here we have very raw stock, stout trunk. I haven't really dug junipers before and I was cautious while digging to get as much roots as possible. They were somewhat flat and spreading because like everything else I put in the ground years ago, i put it over a tile. I was bold and did pretty much a bare root to get all the garden dirt out before getting it into a proper mix.

I built a cedar box, a large one. The box is super heavy after i finished filling with soil. Hurt my damn back lifting with poor mechanics!!

I'll continue to see how she grows but will need some severe cut backs to get to that trunk. I'm looking for input on timing of when I can start the cutbacks and the amount I can take off after the recent dig. I could let it go another year to do major work, but i was thinking that if it was showing me signs of good growth this summer that I could start opening it up with some cutbacks.
IMG_2663.jpg
IMG_2662.jpg
IMG_2666.jpg
IMG_2664.jpg
 
The fact that you planted it on a tile is awesome. You didn't mention how long you had it in the ground?

I'm trying to figure out what year I put it in the ground. I still have some more photos to go through I believe it has to be about 5-6 years.
 
I bought this Itoigawa years back when it was quite small and put it in the ground. I think it was about the thickness of a marker in a one gallon container when I received it. Buying large developed material can get expensive, so it doesn't hurt to buy smaller stuff and plant out each year and forget about it. After some years the rewards will start to come in. I'm trying to document things better so although this isn't a bonsai yet, i'd like to track it's journey here.

I'd like this one to be bigger but I have other Itoigawas and kishus growing out in the ground so I picked this one to start developing. I didn't know much about junipers when I planted out and I know only slightly more than that now. So here we have very raw stock, stout trunk. I haven't really dug junipers before and I was cautious while digging to get as much roots as possible. They were somewhat flat and spreading because like everything else I put in the ground years ago, i put it over a tile. I was bold and did pretty much a bare root to get all the garden dirt out before getting it into a proper mix.

I built a cedar box, a large one. The box is super heavy after i finished filling with soil. Hurt my damn back lifting with poor mechanics!!

I'll continue to see how she grows but will need some severe cut backs to get to that trunk. I'm looking for input on timing of when I can start the cutbacks and the amount I can take off after the recent dig. I could let it go another year to do major work, but i was thinking that if it was showing me signs of good growth this summer that I could start opening it up with some cutbacks.
View attachment 238940
View attachment 238939
View attachment 238943
View attachment 238941
This is the idea anyone have any interest in bonsai needs to follow. Good work as usual... I have plenty to work with as I have started something like this about 12 year ago.. wish I have a few in the ground but am happy with smaller stocks in pots.
 
That lower trunk looks great! It’s time to air layer some of those longer wips and send them to me ?. That’s going to be a fun one to develop. Again, great job growing the trunk.

Thanks Dave. I removed a few branches and stuck cuttings everywhere. Clearly there is a lot more to come off when the time comes. I hadn't thought to layer anything though. I just want to chop it all off!
 
Nice job! Always good to plant some nuggets in the ground for “future you”! This will be fun to watch develop.
 
These take a long time to decide whether they will live or die. It is usually mid summer before I see good new growth to indicate survival but you have a good root mass so yours may get started a little sooner. It is tempting to start reduction early but I think it would be wise to wait until at least mid summer, probably end of summer and only then if there is lots of new growth.
 
Any follow up info? Is this monster still looking healthy as the weather warms up?
 
Any follow up info? Is this monster still looking healthy as the weather warms up?

Still looking ok. Some interior yellowing and dropping over the past three weeks but nothing that has me overly concerned.
 

Attachments

  • 2C4B2B53-1254-4A37-B9A9-601C63CEE86E.jpeg
    2C4B2B53-1254-4A37-B9A9-601C63CEE86E.jpeg
    224.8 KB · Views: 105
  • 56ECD11F-B978-444C-A399-934C4E6AEEE8.jpeg
    56ECD11F-B978-444C-A399-934C4E6AEEE8.jpeg
    444.4 KB · Views: 108
  • 5E31D60C-CD7A-4A62-A920-D268FD817E94.jpeg
    5E31D60C-CD7A-4A62-A920-D268FD817E94.jpeg
    410.3 KB · Views: 102
I ended up selling this tree some time ago. Never even styled it. It’s ok as I have it’s brother in the ground that I will likely dig In a couple weeks.
Last year I took a bunch of cuttings and had a pretty good success rate. I did half in straight perlite and half in potting soil with some perlite for drainage. Perlite cuttings took and grew better. so what do you do with 40 rooted cuttings? You start twisting! I’m not sure what I have planned for all of them but a lot will end up like these.
369DBF5A-5E7E-41B5-A61A-EC6923C40A3B.jpegA7C51329-F6F0-40F2-B519-49FD426E5322.jpeg019B9606-4375-4623-ADCA-6C362B7DAF1E.jpeg4B160CCC-5957-4990-AE9A-A712A7777E08.jpegF537157F-BE25-4C83-B59B-58D1DAB62CDB.jpeg


And then some ever more twisted. Maybe they’ll be bonsai one day.

DDDE9FDC-DC6B-4E9A-8414-12819653AE6F.jpeg
 
Oh hey I messaged you if you still have some cuttings and if you would maybe want to sell some !
 
I'm trying to figure out what year I put it in the ground. I still have some more photos to go through I believe it has to be about 5-6 years.
What was the soil you have used in ground and was there any fertilizer applied.
 
What was the soil you have used in ground and was there any fertilizer applied.
No special soil, just regular dirt that was in my yard. No fertilizer.
 
I bought this Itoigawa years back when it was quite small and put it in the ground. I think it was about the thickness of a marker in a one gallon container when I received it. Buying large developed material can get expensive, so it doesn't hurt to buy smaller stuff and plant out each year and forget about it. After some years the rewards will start to come in. I'm trying to document things better so although this isn't a bonsai yet, i'd like to track it's journey here.

I'd like this one to be bigger but I have other Itoigawas and kishus growing out in the ground so I picked this one to start developing. I didn't know much about junipers when I planted out and I know only slightly more than that now. So here we have very raw stock, stout trunk. I haven't really dug junipers before and I was cautious while digging to get as much roots as possible. They were somewhat flat and spreading because like everything else I put in the ground years ago, i put it over a tile. I was bold and did pretty much a bare root to get all the garden dirt out before getting it into a proper mix.

I built a cedar box, a large one. The box is super heavy after i finished filling with soil. Hurt my damn back lifting with poor mechanics!!

I'll continue to see how she grows but will need some severe cut backs to get to that trunk. I'm looking for input on timing of when I can start the cutbacks and the amount I can take off after the recent dig. I could let it go another year to do major work, but i was thinking that if it was showing me signs of good growth this summer that I could start opening it up with some cutbacks.
View attachment 238940
View attachment 238939
View attachment 238943
View attachment 238941
Do you have any more trees in ground.
 
Do you have any more trees in ground.

maybe three right now but I’ve had many varieties in the ground at one point or another.
 
Back
Top Bottom