Anybody growing pepper trees?

[PierreR]

I picked this up along with a serissa, interesting little tree. Tiny leaves, seems slower growing. Looking forward to spring, maybe a pot and pruning in store for it.
I'd like to see any examples you might have. Specifically Chinese pepper tree zanthoxylum piperitum

 

[M. Frary]

I didn't know they grew on trees.

 

[PierreR]

From what I understand, this will flower, and produce a type of pepper corn.

 

[M. Frary]

I was referring to jalapeño type peppers Pierre.
You know. I have a small smart-ass streak.
That's actually a good looking little tree. I don't know a dam thing about them though.
Did you do a search here?

 

[PierreR]

I did Mike, seems there are several types of pepper trees, some seem to be thought of as weeds. California Pepper tree? Still looking, found a couple, yes.

 

[M. Frary]

While you're back there in the archives read some of the longer threads. The old ones from way back. Makes for good reading on a cold day. The discussions were shall we say.. spirited.

 

[carp]

Style it the way Osteomeles sobrtunda are styled. It won't be as tight and compact as osteomeles is though. Sansho has longer internodes.

 

[0soyoung]

I have what I understood to be a Zanthoxylum piperitum commonly known as a Japanese pepper tree. Leaves are compound and quite a bit larger than your specimen. I keep playing with it, though I am finding it to be a rather frustrating. I haven't seen a mature one, but it appears that it might have interesting bark, ... eventually.

 

[Vance Wood]

I didn't know they grew on trees.

There is a California Pepper tree I remember from my youth. It didn't look a lot like a pepper either but there ya' go.

 

[sorce]

Style it the way Osteomeles sobrtunda are styled. It won't be as tight and compact as osteomeles is though. Sansho has longer internodes

Hey @carp .

Say that for us snow fellers!

Maybe a picture!

Sorce

 

[PierreR]

@Osoyoung Interesting tree. The example I have, has leaves with smooth edges, leaves have a glossy appearance. I wonder how many variations of zanthoxylum piperitum there are?

 

[carp]

Osteomeles subrotunda is used in Japan. Not really a tropical but it does come from the southern islands of Japan.

 

[0soyoung]

Style it the way Osteomeles sobrtunda are styled.

Not having any idea what you are talking about, could you provide a brief/terse review of this styling technique?

 

[PierreR]

@carp NICE!! Thanks for those pictures! Are they yours or in your care? Any idea on the age of the trees? Digging the flowers, nice looking trees.

 

[0soyoung]

@Osoyoung Interesting tree. The example I have, has leaves with smooth edges, leaves have a glossy appearance. I wonder how many variations of zanthoxylum piperitum there are?

I'm wondering too .
My leaflets have lightly serrated edges and are sorta waxy - nice peppery smell rubs off. It has flowered for several seasons now, but the fruits/corns have not remained long enough to ripen; maybe my tree is a male - dunno.

 

[carp]

It's not a technique at all. Osteomeles is similar, but with a more compact leaf and growth habbit. You should style the Zanthoxylum similar to the Osteomeles I posted above. Osteomeles sobrotunda is a dwarf and the most popular for bonsai. According to Wiki, there are at least 250 varieties of Zanthoxylum. I believe the OP has Sanshō. Idk about the other tree here.

 

[0soyoung]

Thanks, @carp.

 

[Aiki_Joker]

I'm wondering too .
My leaflets have lightly serrated edges and are sorta waxy - nice peppery smell rubs off. It has flowered for several seasons now, but the fruits/corns have not remained long enough to ripen; maybe my tree is a male - dunno.

Nice! Looks like the serrated edge is Japanese and the smooth round glossy leaf is Chinese pepper. I saw one that had fruited in a supermarket the other day. Just one pepper corn on it left. It was in the mouth of a pacman shaped organ (like the computer game)!

I thought it was something stuck on it at first, but when I examined it I realised it waa a fruit. Not in a good state. I may have to buy it and try and get it back to health. Only a small thing. Yours PierreR and thw one i saw in the supermarket looks to me like ZANTHOXYLUM BEECHEYANUM a popular commercial bonsai material.

What temperature, light and soil do you use Pierre? I'm wondering if I can keep this outside here (especially in the winter when it is not so searingly hot and dry - middle east desert basically).

 

[0soyoung]

Despite the big leaves, internodes on my Japanese pepper can be reasonably short. I find it interesting how the almost black new bark contrasts sharply with older bark. Still might develop into an interesting bonsai.

 

[Aiki_Joker]

Despite the big leaves, internodes on my Japanese pepper can be reasonably short. I find it interesting how the almost black new bark contrasts sharply with older bark. Still might develop into an interesting bonsai.

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I think it already is a nice bonsai mate! We are always looking to improve though which is great, this is the story of life I guess. Really like the twigging you have there. Is it quick to develop witht he japanese pepper? Like two forks or more per year? Experimenting with tropicals recently and they seem to grow super fast!

Through this awesome hobby I have learned to appreciate every stage of development in such a short time in comparison to the lifetime of these trees. Only seed growth I have an issue with being too slow to develop. This is somewhere to improve ha ha ha. Need more patience